Work 06/27/17 Session – Norfolk City Council

Work 06/27/17 Session – Norfolk City Council


>>THANK YOU, MAYOR.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I WOULD SAY TO YOU, TONIGHT
ABSOLUTELY QUALIFIES FOR THE DESCRIPTION OF SUBSTANTIVE
DELIBERATION. WE’RE GOING TO BRING YOU SOME
NEW TOPICS AND I’LL RUN THROUGH THE AGENCY FOR YOU QUICKLY AND
WE’LL GET GOING POP WE’RE GOING TO DO ASH OBVIOUSLY THE OUTLET
MALL ON THURSDAY, SO FRIEDA BURNS AND LORI CROUCH ARE GOING
TO JUMP UP AND GIVE A PRESENTATION TO YOU, FIVE OR TEN
MINUTES AND LET YOU KNOW AND THE COMMUNITY KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE
HAPPENING AND GOING ON. REALLY EXCITING.
A LOT OF OUR STAFF WAS OUT THERE THE LAST FEW DAYS AND LOOKING
REALLY NICE. AFTER THAT DARRELL CRITTENDON IS
GOING TO JUMP UP AND GIVE A PIECE ON THE NIGHT HAWKS PROGRAM
AND ALSO INTRODUCE DEIDRE LOVE, THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF TEENS WITH A PURPOSE AND I THINK IT WAS WYNTER THAT
SHARED A VIDEO WITH ME OF THE FAITH-CREATED COMMUNITY SPACE
THAT DEIDRE IS WORKING ON AND WE HAVE TO GET HER IN FRONT OF THE
COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT THEY’RE DOING.
WE’RE EXCITED THAT SHE IS HERE. THEN JOHN CONE KNACK AND I ARE
GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE COOPERATION AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
WE’LL TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT AND THE AGREEMENT ABOUT WHAT WE’LL
TOO AND WHAT WE’RE CALLING THE ST. PAUL’S/NEWTON CREEK AREA,
THE PUBLIC HOUSING PROJECT OF CALVERT AND YOUNG AND TIDEWATER
AND THAT WILL BE A SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATION.
I’LL ACTUALLY DO MOST OF THAT PRESENTATION, BUT JOHN KOWNACK
AND SUSAN PERRY WILL HELP ME WITH THAT.
MIKE GOLDSMITH AS YOU ALL KNOW STEPPED IN AS THE DEPUTY CITY
MANAGER OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND WE IMMEDIATELY PUT HIM IN CHARGE OF
TRYING TO FIX FARRELL AND THE PROBLEMS WE HAD — PAYROLL AND
THE PROBLEMS WE HAD WITH THE CITY INHERITED PAYROLL AND
ROLLOUT AND THAT’S GONE ON FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS.
WE WANT YOU TO HAVE A SENSE OF WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WE THINK
HAPPENED, WHAT WE DO TO KEEP IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN AND GIVE
YOU A CHANCE TO HEAR THAT PIECE. AND THEN JERRY CHALK AND GREG
PATRICK ARE GOING TO JUMP UP AND TELL YOU ABOUT THE HOTEL AND
CONFERENCE CENTER PROJECT. WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME
REALLY EXCITING NEWS AND GREG IS GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT
ARE JUST ABOUT THE FINAL NUMBERS.
WE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO CLOSE OUT OF THE PUNCH LIST, BUT
AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, WE KNOW WHAT THE FINAL NUMBERS ARE AND
WHAT YOU AND THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW.
AND THEN THE CITY ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS A CLOSED SESSION
ITEM FOR YOU. SO WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, ONE
OF THE THINGS WE TRY TO DO IS REALLY HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE
FOLKS THAT ARE DOING GREAT WORK IN THE ORGANIZATION AND PUT THE
FOLKS THAT ARE THE EXPERTS OF WHAT’S HAPPENING IN FRONT OF
COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY. WITH THAT IN MIND, FRIEDA BURNS
IS OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY ADMINISTRATOR AND ONE OF THE
THINGS WE’RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT IS — AND WE’VE
OPENED, WE WILL HAVE OPENED THREE MAJOR, TRANSFORMATIONAL
PROJECTS THIS YEAR. THE MAIN HOTEL AND CONFERENCE
CENTER, WATERSIDE AND NOW THE OUTLET MALL AND YOU GOT SOME
FOLKS THAT REALLY, REALLY WORKED HARD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND
WE’LL TALK LATER ABOUT HOW WE RECOGNIZE SOME OF THOSE FOLKS,
BUT THE MAIN THING WE WANT YOU TO SEE FROM FRIEDA AND HOR RI
CROUCH, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, IS WHAT’S HAPPENING THE NEXT
COUPLE DAYS. IT’S PRETTY EXCITING WHAT’S
GOING TO TAP STARTING THURSDAY AND THROUGH THE WEEKEND OF
SHOPPING AND ENTERTAINMENT. WITH THAT, I’M GOING TO ASK LORI
TO STEP UP.>>BEFORE WE GET STARTED,
BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF TO COVER AND YOU’RE GOING TO TALK
ABOUT EMPLOYEES AND OUR GREAT EMPLOYEES AND WHATNOT, WE GOT A
HOLIDAY COMING UP ON JULY THE 3rd AND COUNCIL I THINK POLLED
EVERYBODY LAST WEEK AND SINCE SHE CAN’T BE HERE, I WANT TO GET
THIS OUT OF THE WAY. EVERYBODY KNOWS I’M THE DAY OFF
GIRL, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE (INAUDIBLE) SINCE IT
FALLS ON A MONDAY OFF TO OUR CITY EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE
4th. THAT WAY THEY CAN ENJOY TWO DAYS
OFF INSTEAD OF JUST ONE.>>MS. GRAVES, I HAD THAT
CONVERSATION WITH THE MANAGER AND I HAVE INSTRUCTED THE
MANAGER TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME.>>GOOD DEAL.
SORRY.>>THAT’S ALL RIGHT.
>>THANK YOU.>>GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS
OF COUNCIL. I AM PLEASED TO BRING YOU UP TO
SPEED AND SHARE WITH YOU THE UPDATES INCORPORATE PLANS OF THE
GRAND OPENING OF THE NORFOLK PREMIUM OUTLETS THAT WILL TAKE
PLACE THIS THURSDAY THE 29th. AT YOUR SPOT YOU HAVE A MAP AND
A PARKING PASS THAT GETS YOU ON TO THE PROPERTY.
I’VE RESERVED SOME PARKING SPACES FOR YOU ADJACENT TO THE
RIBBON-CUTTING CEREMONY, BUT YOU’LL SEE WHERE THEY HAVE THE
BREAKFAST RECEPTION WHICH STARTS AT 8:30 IN THE MORNING AND GOES
UNTIL 9:30 AND THAT’S AT MARKET HALL AND IT WILL BE A SHORT WALK
FROM THERE TO THE RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY.
DIVE TO CLICK, AM I CLICKING? THERE WE GOOD.
8:30 TO 9:30 OPENING BREAKFAST RECEPTION AND AT 9:40 THE RIBBON
CUTTING WILL BEGIN. THEY HAVE A NATIONAL ANTHEM
PRESENTATION OF COLORS AND THERE’S THREE SPEAKERS, SCOTT
RICHARDSON AND MAYOR ALEXANDER AND STEVE ROLOFF, THE CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE PREMIUM OUTLETS AND THEN THE
MALL OPENS AT 10:00 AND THEY HAVE A WEEKEND OF THURSDAY AND
FRIDAY, OF A LOT OF EXCITING EVENTS PLANNED TO CELEBRATE THIS
NEW OUTLET MALL AND THE NEW PARK IN THE WATER THAT IS AROUND IT.
I’M GOING TO NOW TURN IT OVER TO FRIEDA BURNS AND RICHARD WHO
HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD WITH SIMON AND ITS TEAM TO GET
US READY TO GO.>>GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I AM RICK PORTNER, YOUR BUILDING
OFFICIAL, AND I’M VERY PROUD TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND ANNOUNCE
THAT ONE SHORT YEAR AGO TODAY, WE ISSUED THE FIRST TWO BUILDING
PERMITS FOR THE PREMIUM OUTLET MALL ON JUNE 22nd AND JUST A
LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR LATER, THEY WILL COME IN TO GET
APPROVAL FOR OCCUPANCY AND THE MALL AND 51 STORES.
WHERE WE ARE NOW, WE’VE ISSUED A TOTAL OF 234 PLAN REVIEWS WE’VE
CONDUCTED, 400 PERMITS TO DATE AND WE’VE CONDUCTED A TOTAL OF
1270 INSPECTIONS AND THEY’RE COUNTING AS WELL.
SO BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, WE’RE EXPECTING
ANOTHER 28 TENANTS. ONE RESTAURANT AND THE REST
RETAIL. SO THANK YOU.
FRIEDA?>>WE’VE BEEN WORKING WITH
CONDON AND THEIR CONTACT, CLEVELAND CONSTRUCTION, SINCE
MAY OF LAST YEAR AND HERE’S A LIST OF STORES THAT’S INCLUDED
IN YOUR PACKET. THERE’S A LIST OF THE SIX STORES
THAT WE DO KNOW THAT ARE COMING IN THE FALL THERE.
WE’VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON HAVING MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF,
GOING THROUGH WHATEVER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THEY HAD AND
EXCHANGING PHONE CALLS AND SMALLER MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE
YEAR. HERE’S A QUICK MAP OF THE
OUTLETS AND THE DIFFERENT SCORES.
WE’VE BEEN MEETING TO COORDINATE TRAFFIC AND LOGISTICS FOR THIS
WEEKEND. COOPERATION FROM SIMON, ALLIED,
WHICH IS A CONSULTANT THAT THEY HIRED, CITY OF NORFOLK, VIRGINIA
BEACH, VIRGINIA STATE POLICE, AND WE’VE MET SEVERAL TIMES AND
ALSO EMAILED AND PHONE CONFERENCE TO HAVE EVERYTHING
READY FOR THIS WEEKEND, AND THAT PICTURE IS FROM YESTERDAY’S
FINAL MEETING. HERE’S AN OVERVIEW OF THE
OUTLETS, NEW WORLD PREMIUM OUTLETS BOULEVARD STARTS AT
NORTHAMPTON AND RUNS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE OUTLETS.
>>FRIEDA, ORIENT FOLKS.>>THIS IS NORTHAMPTON HERE AND
THE OUTLETS, THE WHITE LINE GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE
OUTLETS. THEY’RE ALSO PRITCHETT STREET
NEAR THE FIRE — [ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ]
>>I WAS THINKING OF WATERSIDE.>>YOU HAVE NORTHAMPTON
BOULEVARD, THE PREMIUM OUTLETS BOULEVARD, NORFOLK OUT HERE, 64
RUNS ACROSS HERE.>>SO THE PARKING PLAN, THE
INTERIOR PARKING PLAN, THEY HIRED 18 FLAGGERS TO WORK INSIDE
FOR OPENING WEEKEND. IT’S GOING TO BE LIKE WHEN YOU
GO TO GOISH GARDENS — BUSCH GARDENS AND THEY SCOOT EVERYBODY
IN. THEY’RE GOING TO USE THE
OVERFLOW AREA FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND THE PRESIDENT OF
VIRGINIA WES LAYIN IS BEHIND THIS PROJECT AND EVEN THOUGH
THERE’S A SOCCER TOURNAMENT ON CAMPUS, HE DEDICATED OVER 200
SPACES FOR TENANTS TO PARK. THERE IS MORE OF THE PLAN WHERE
THE OVERFLOW WILL BE AND THERE’S THE TENANT PARKING THERE.
THIS IS A TRAFFIC PLAN. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR
VIRGINIA STATE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE INTERSTATE, 10 NORFOLK
POLICE OFFICERS AND FOUR VIRGINIA BEACH POLICE OFFICERS.
THERE WILL BE MESSAGE SIGNS THROUGHOUT.
AND WHAT I’M TOLD, VDOT, WE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT AND WE NOW
HAVE APPROVAL.>>ARBY LANE WILL HANDLE THE
SIGNAGE AND IT WILL BE VDOT-ISSUED SIGNS, SO VDOT WILL
ERECT ALL THE SIGNAGE ON 264/64, SO THERE WON’T BE ANY SIGNS THAT
BE GENERATED BY SIMON OR THE CITY.
IT WILL BE VDOT CONTROLLING THE MESSAGE AS RELATES TO EXPECTED
DELAYS, EXPECTED TRAFFIC, SO SECRETARY LANE HAS JUST APPROVED
THAT HE WILL HANDLE THE SIGNAGE.>>THANK YOU, MAYOR.
>>YOU’RE WELCOME.>>AND WE’RE BACK ON SCHEDULE
AND BACK ON PLAN. THERE WILL BE MESSAGE BOARDS IN
CITY TO DIRECT PERSONS AND THIS IS AN OUTLOOK ON STAFFING, THE
NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT’S GOING TO BE 16 HOURS A DAY, 15 HOURS A
DAY, AND VIRGINIA BEACH WILL STAFF THE AREAS THAT ARE IN
VIRGINIA BEACH. STATE TROOPERS WILL ASSIST AND
THERE’S ALSO A PLAN FOR EMS, AND HERE ARE A FEW PHOTOS.
THERE WAS ONE PHOTO THAT SHOWED AN OUTLOOK WHEN YOU FIRST DRIVE
IN AND I TOOK THAT OFF. YOU HAVE TO SEE IT FOR YOURSELF.
IT IS SPECTACULAR.>>FRIEDA, TERRIFIC.
>>MR. SMIGIEL HAS A QUESTION.>>I JUST WANT TO SAY, I SAID AT
THE MEETING, BUT I DID WANT TO SAY IT PUBLICLY BECAUSE FRIEDA
HAS NEVER PRESENTED IN FRONT OF US, SHE IS A ROCK STAR.
ANYBODY WHO’S EVER WORKED WITH FRIEDA, SHE RESPONDS BACK
INSTANTLY IF YOU SENT A QUESTION.
I TOLD YOU THAT I’VE NOMINATED HER FOR EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR IF
NOBODY ELSE HAS, WE’RE THAT — BUT FRIEDA, THANK YOU FOR
EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY. SHE’S AN OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEE.
EVERY INTERACTION I’VE HAD WITH HER IS NOTHING BUT POSITIVE, SO
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.>>THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]>>YOU TALK ABOUT FRIEDA BEING A
ROCK STAR, THAT’S NOT JUST US, IT’S FROM THE CITIZENS.
WE HEAR REGULARLY FROM CITIZENS SAYING, WOW, WE GET THE ANSWERS
TO QUESTIONS — AND WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM THAT FRIEDA REALLY
HAS BEEN SOMEBODY THAT HAS OUTSTANDING.
>>AND SHE DOES GREAT WITH OUR MOST DIFFICULT ISSUES AS WELL.
>>WHICH WE ALL THANK HER FOR. [ LAUGHTER ]
>>REALLY, YOU ALL STOLE MY THUNDER.
YOU’VE GOT SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE REALLY WORKED HARD THESE LAST
FEW MONTHS TO MAKE SOME MAJOR PROJECTS COME UP.
I WASN’T EXPECTING YOU TO GRASP ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT TRAFFIC
PLAN, BUT JUST SEE THE COMPLEXITY OF IT AND SEE THE
COOPERATION THAT’S GONE ON WITH THE CITY OF VIRGINIA BEACH AND
RICK AND HIS TEAM AND FRIEDA AND HER TEAM AND A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE
DONE SOME HEAVY LIFTING. THIS IS AN EXCITING WEEKEND AND
LET THE SALES TAXES START ROLLING IN
[ LAUGHTER ]>>THANK YOU, ALL.
WITH THAT I’M GOING TO ASK DARRELL CRITTENDON, DIRECTOR OF
RECREATION, PARKS AND OPEN SPACES, SO STEP UP AND GIVE YOU
A COUPLE MINUTES ON THE NIGHT HAWKS PROGRAM AND HE’LL
INTRODUCE DEIDRE LOVE.>>GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR,
COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER SMITH.
AS YOU KNOW, OUR OPENING WEEKEND KICKED OFF LAST WEEKEND WITH THE
NORFOLK NIGHT HACKS BASKETBALL PROGRAM.
WE HAD 191 PARTICIPANTS AND WHAT WE’RE REALLY PLEASED ABOUT, OUT
OF THE 191, WE ACTUALLY HAD 40 WOMEN THAT SHOWED UP, AND THAT’S
BEEN A PLUS FOR US BECAUSE LAST YEAR, WE ONLY HAD 4% OF OUR
OVERALL PARTICIPATION NUMBERS WERE WOMEN AND THAT EQUATED TO
MAYBE ABOUT TEN WOMEN DURING THE WHOLE SESSION.
WE HAD 40 DURING THE FIRST OPENING SESSION, SO THAT IS
GREAT. AND I THINK IT’S DUE TO THE
VENDORS WE HAD AND NOT ONLY THAT, THERE ARE A LOT MORE
DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS AND EVENTS HAPPENING.
WE HAVE MIXED DANCE AND FITNESS CLASSES.
OUR VENDORS ARE GOING TO BE CENTURA COLLEGE AND WE’VE EVEN
HAD TIDEWATER TECH SHOW UP AS A VOLUNTEER VENDOR AS WELL AND
THERE ARE INTRODUCTORY CLASSES TO WELDING, ELECTRICIAN CLASSES
AND MECHANICS CLASSES, SO I THINK WHAT WE’RE OFFERING IN
THIS OPENING PHASE IS DRAWING A LOT MORE OF A DIVERSE CROWD AND
A LOT MORE PROGRAM OFFERINGS. THIS WEEKEND WILL CONTINUE WITH
BERKLEY, NORVIEW AND HUNTERSVILLE AND WE HAVE FUTURE
EVENTS HAPPENING AT THE LAMBERTS POINT COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE
EAST OCEAN VIEW RECREATION CENTER.
YOU HAD A QUESTION?>>NO.
>>OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS OF DARRELL?
>>GOOD JOB, MAN.>>TEAM APPROACH.
IT’S MY PLEASURE TODAY TO INTRODUCE A VERY SPECIAL LADY.
SINCE 2010, SHE’S HAD A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
CITY, A WORKING PARTNERSHIP, AND HOW I FIRST MET DEIDRE WAS WHEN
I GOT HERE BACK IN 2006, WE REALIZED WE HAD A DEFER
OFFICIALS IS I IN PROGRAMMING THAT ALL OF OUR — DEFICIENCY IN
OUR PROGRAMMING THAT ALL OUR PROGRAMS WERE 6 THROUGH 12.
SHE STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE IN 2010 AND OFFERED THREE TEEN
SUMMER CAMPS FOR US D AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND HER
PROGRAMS, PEOPLE ARE RAVING ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME.
WE’VE HAD SUCH GOOD TURNOUT WITH TEENS COMING OUT THAT WE WERE
ABLE TO GET HER TO LEASE SPACE IN THE VIVIAN C. MASON
TECHNOLOGY CENTER AND THAT’S TURNED OUT TO BE OUR STAND-ALONE
TEEN CENTER AND SHE’S DONE A FABBED JOB THERE.
NOT ONTEAM SUMMER CAMP, BUT THE HAMPTON ROADS YOUTH LAUREATE
PROGRAM, TEENS WITH A PURPOSE SCHOOL-BASED POETRY AND LITERACY
PROGRAM AND SHE’S DONE SO MUCH MORK BUT HER LATEST ENDEAVOR IS
ACTUALLY SAFE CREATIVE SPACE AND WHAT SHE WANTED TO LOOK AT IS
PROVIDING A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SPACE FOR ART, ENTERTAINMENT AND
CULTURE. THIS CAME OUT OF THE VISION OF
NOT ONLY DEIDRE BUT ONE OF HER TEEN PARTICIPANTS AND I’M NOT
GOING TO STEAL THE COUNCILMAN’S THUNDER, I’M GOING TO LET DEIDRE
DO THAT, BUT THROUGH THEIR VISION, IT TURNED OUT TO BE A
WORTHWHILE WHERE EVERYBODY WILL ENJOY, SO AT THIS TIME I’LL TURN
IT OVER TO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TEENS WITH A PURPOSE DEIDRE
LOVE. [ APPLAUSE ]
>>THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR ALEXANDER,
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND CITY MANAGER SMITH.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY.
I WANTED TO START WITH A ONE-MINUTE VIDEO AND THE VIDEO I
HOPE WILL PUT YOU IN THE MIND OF WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE YOUNG,
OPEN TO EVERYTHING, AND EXCITED ABOUT A SIMPLE GARDEN.
MM>>TAKES US BACK TO THE FIRST
TIME WE DUG IN THE EARTH AT VIVIAN C. MASON.
MM>>ALL RIGHT!
>>NO, NO.>>WE HAD ENGINEERS AND POLICE
OFFICERS AND, OF COURSE, THE YOUNG PEOPLE DANCED AND
CELEBRATED AND ANYTHING THAT GREW WAS A REASON TO DANCE AND
PARTY AGAIN. MM
>>WE HAVE ONE RAISED BED. AND IT MEANT THE WORLD TO US.
SO JUST INCORPORATING ART INTO GROWING THE GARDEN AND
COMMUNITY. MM
AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD EVERYTHING THAT SUMMER.
YES, BEAUTIFUL. [ APPLAUSE ]
>>SO THE SLIDES ARE REALLY A PICTURE DOCUMENTARY OF THE
PROCESS, SO THEY’RE NOT GOING TO LINE UP PERFECTLY WITH WHAT I
HAVE TO SAY TO YOU TODAY, BUT MY JOB AS TEENS WITH A PURPOSE
DIRECTOR IS TO LISTEN, ENGAGE, AND SUPPORT YOUNG PEOPLE, TO
CREATE A CULTURE THAT CULTIVATES LEADERSHIP, STRENGTHENS
LITERACY, ARTISTIC ABILITIES, INSPIRE YOUNG PEOPLE TO FINE
THEIR VOICE, AND END — FIND THEIR VOICE AND ENCOURAGE THEM
IN THEIR CIVIC AND SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES, SO IN 2013
WHEN THE TEENS BECAME EXCITED ABOUT A SIMPLE RAISED BED MADE
OUT OF ONE PARKING ISLAND AT VIVIAN C. MASON TEEN CENTER, OUR
HEADQUARTERS, I KNEW WE HAD SOMETHING.
AND THAT “SOMETHING” GREW INTO A PROJECT THAT WE CAME UP WITH
CALLED HOW’S IT GROWING AND HOW’S IT GROWING TAKES THE
GARDEN AND USES IT AS A MET TO FOR LIFE.
SO WE HAVE — METAPHOR FOR LIFE. SO WE HAVE THROW COMPONENTS,
WEED, WATER AND WATCH. WITH THE WEED PIECE, WE ACTUALLY
BEAD IN THE — WEED IN THE GARDEN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT
THINGS IN A YOUNG PERSON’S LIFE DO THEY NEED TOO WEED OUT.
WHO NEEDS TO GO. WITH WATER, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO
GROW? WE WATCH THE GARDEN GROW, BUT
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO GROW INSIDE OF YOUR OWN PERSONAL LIFE
AND YOUR SPACE? AND WITH WATCH, WE REALLY TALKED
ABOUT JUST BEING PRESENT, BEING PRESENT IN THE MOMENT, WHERE YOU
ARE, WHAT SITUATIONS ARE HAPPENING IN YOUR LIFE AND
REALIZING THAT THE SITUATION DOES NOT DEFINE YOU.
IT’S SOMETHING THAT YOU’LL GO THROUGH AND SO WITH THE WEED,
WATER, WATCH, AND THE GARDEN, THAT WAS THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND SO FAST FORWARDING TO TODAY, WE NOW HAVE 16 RAISED BEDS,
HOW’S IT GROWING IS A PART OF EVERY CAMP, AND OUR TEENS GO OUT
ON MONDAY NIGHTS, KNOCKING ON THE DOORS IN THE SURROUNDING
COMMUNITY WITH SOMETHING THAT THEY INVENTED CALLED THE HELLO
BRIGADE. THEY SHARE FOOD FROM THE GARDEN,
INVITE COMMUNITIES TO EVENTS THAT WE HOST, AND JUST SAY HELLO
BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY SAID TO US IN ONE OF OUR THINK TANKS THAT
ONE THING THIS THEY NEEDED WAS TO BE VALUED FOR JUST WHO THEY
ARE, NOT CHANGED NECESSARY, JUST VALUED.
SO THE TEENS DECIDED WE’RE GOING TO JUST GO SAY HELLO WITH NO
INTENTIONS EXCEPT TO VALUE PEOPLE.
IN FACT, THEIR HELLO BRIGADE WAS COVERED BY WAVY TV-10 AS PART OF
THEIR TAKING BACK COMMUNITY. THESE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE HOSTED
COMMUNITY BLOCK PARTIES WITH FOOD, COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION,
TRANSFORMATIVE ART AND ENTERTAINMENT AT CALVERT AND
YOUNGS TERRACE PLUS A COMMUNITY FESTIVAL CALLED F.U.S.E.
FESTIVAL AND ALL OF THESE WE OFFER IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
CITY AND WE PARTNER FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY AND MANY OTHER
COMMUNITY EVENTS JUST TO EMPOWER AND UPLIFT OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR COMMUNITY THINK TANK BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER TO WORK TO SOLVE
OUR PROBLEMS TOGETHER, SO TEENS WITH A PURPOSE HAS ORGANICALLY
MOVED FROM TEENS ONLY FOCUS TO TEEN-LED, YOUTH-INSPIRED
ORGANIZATION, INVOLVING AN INTERGENERATIONAL AUDIENCE AND
PROGRAMS THAT HELP TO TRANSFORM THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
THIS PROJECT, A SAFE CREATIVE SPACE, CONTINUES, I BELIEVE, TO
SUPPORT THE CITY’S VISION FOR SAFER, HEALTHY, INCLUSIVE
COMMUNITIES BY ENGAGING COMMUNITY AND DIALOGUE AND
HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE IN BUILDING AND IN GARDENING AND CREATING
PROGRAMS FOR THEMSELVES AND WITH OTHERS WITH MORE EXPERIENCE,
PERHAPS, INSIDE OF THE SAFE CREATIVE SPACE.
THE PLAN FOR THE SPACE THUS FAR INCLUDES TWP’S HOW’S IT GROWING
PROGRAM DURING THE SUMMER WITH, OF COURSE, TEENS AND VOLUNTEERS
FROM THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY WORKING THE GARDEN AT THE TEEN
CENTER AS WELL AS IN THE SAFE CREATIVE SPACE, THE COMMUNITY
PLANTING AND GARDENING DAY. WE HAVE THE FIRST ONE PLANNED
FOR THURSDAY THIS WEEK FROM 1:00 TO 2:00, AND THE FIRST
COMMUNITY — THAT’S A PLANTING DAY DURING THE CAMP, FROM 1:00
TO 2:00, AND THEN ON THURSDAY, JULY 27th, FROM 5:00 TO 8:00,
SHREEL A COMMUNITY GARDEN — WE’LL HAVE A COMMUNITY GARDENING
AND GAMES NIGHT AND WE SHOULD — WE PLAN TO COMPLETE PHASE ONE
RIGHT IN TYPE FOR OUR COMMUNITY FESTIVAL, FUSE FEST ON SEPTEMBER
3rd. WE’LL HAVE ONGOING BUILDING THAT
TAKES PLACE THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND THEN THE NEXT MAJOR
BUILD, THANKS TO THE MISSION CONTINUES, IS PLANNED FOR
VETERANS DAY ON NOVEMBER 10th. TWP DIDN’T DO ANY OF THIS ALONE.
WE DID IT TOGETHER WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND VARIOUS OTHER
GROUPS THAT INFLUENCED THIS PROCESS AND LED TO US THIS DAY
WHEN WE’RE FINALLY READY AND ABLE TO START THIS URBAN GARDEN
AND A SAFE CREATIVE SPACE. I’D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MINUTE
TO THANK SOME OF THE PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT MADE THIS DAY
POSSIBLE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PAUL
RIDDICK FOR ALWAYS BELIEVING AND ENCOURAGING US AND FOR LISTENING
TO MALIK JORDAN. HE IS THAT TEENAGER FROM YOUNG
TERRACE WHO SHARED HIS DESIRE TO ACTIVATE THAT OPEN LOT.
THANK YOU, WYNTER, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO GET TO KNOW OUR
YOUNG PEOPLE AND TO ATTEND OUR PROGRAMS AND SEE OUR WORK WITH
YOUR OWN EYES FIRST HAND. AND FOR BELIEVING THAT WE WERE
FINALLY READY WITH THE RIGHT PARTNERS AND THE RIGHT TIME,
WITH THE RIGHT EXPERIENCE, AND HE RECOMMENDED THAT WE MOVE
FORWARD. SO WE THANK THE COUNCIL AND WE
THANK YOU, DARRELL CRITTENDON FOR THE YEARS OF SUPPORT AND
DAVID FREEMAN AND KEEP NORFOLK BEAUTIFUL.
THEY PROVIDED US WITH TRAINING ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND IT WAS WITH
THAT TRAINING THAT WE REALLY STEPPED INTO THE COMMUNITY AND
STARTED CLEANING THE SPACE AND NOW IT’S ROUTINE FOR US AND
WE’VE ADOPTED A LOT BECAUSE OF THAT, SO WE’D LIKE TO THANK THEM
AS WELL. AND I’D LIKE TO THANK BILL AND
JOANNA FOWLER. THEY ARE TWO RETIRED NORFOLK
CITIZENS WHO ARE CELEBRATED MATHEMATICIANS AND CHEMISTS WHO
HUMBLY HELP US IN THE GARDEN AND WITH OUR CLEANING COMMUNITY
PROJECT ON THE PLANT DATE AND ANY DAY WE FIND THEM HELPING US
IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY’RE HERE TODAY, SO THANK YOU, BILL
AND JOANNA FOR THAT. BROTHER MARVIN MUHAMMAD WHO
ESCORTS THE TEENS ON THE HELLO BRIGADE EVERY MONDAY NIGHT.
CHIEF BOONE AND THE NORFOLK POLICE DEPARTMENT, I KNOW YOU
SAW PICTURES OF THEM, THEY ENGAGE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND
WE’RE BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS AND CARING FOR OUR COMMUNITY
TOGETHER. THE BOTANICAL GARDEN, VIRGINIA
TECH, CHRIS EPPS, NORFOLK REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING FOR
GETTING THE WORD OUT TO ALL OF THE TENANTS IN THE SURROUNDING
COMMUNITY AND FOR WELCOMING THE PROJECT, FOR EASTERN VIRGINIA
MEDICAL SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO VOLUNTEER WITH US TO
CREATE PROGRAMS IN THAT SPACE, THE VIRGINIA WOMEN’S VETERANS
SUMMIT WHO HELPED SPONSOR THE FIRST PLANTING DAY WHICH WAS
JUNE 22nd WHEN WE STARTED, YOU KNOW, THE VENTURE AND BUILT TWO
RAISED BEDS, AND I KNOW I HAVE LEFT OUT LOTS OF NAMES AND
ORGANIZATIONS, BUT IN THE INTERESTS OF TIME, I THANK THEM
ALL THAT I DIDN’T MENTION, BUT THERE’S ONE ORGANIZATION IN
PARTICULAR THAT I HAVE TO MENTION, AND THAT IS THE MISSION
CONTINUES. THE MISSION CONTINUES IS A
NONPROFIT, NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO
BRINGING TOGETHER VETERANS AND INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS TO CREATE TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE FOR
COMMUNITIES IN NEED ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THEY OPERATE IN CITIES THROUGHOUT THE NATION, DEPLOYING
VETERAN VOLUNTEERS ALONGSIDE NONPROFIT PARTNERS AND COMMUNITY
LEADERS TO SOLVE SOME OF THE MOST CHALLENGING ISSUES FACING
OUR COMMUNITIES. I WANT TO GET TO THEIR PICTURES.
THERE, THEY ARE. THE MISSION CONTINUES HAS BEEN A
GREAT BLESSING TO TEENS WITH A PURPOSE.
THEY’VE PARTNERED WITH US NOW FOR A YEAR AND THEY’VE DONE A
LOT INSIDE OF THE SPACE AT VIVIAN C. MASON WITH US AND NOW
REALLY, IT’S BECAUSE OF THE MISSION CONTINUES’ DONATION OF
MANPOWER, EXPERTISE AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT THIS
PROJECT IS POSSIBLE. I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE
RENEE FOSTER, SHE’S THE CITY IMPACT MANAGER FOR HAMPTON ROADS
FOR THE MISSION CONTINUES. RENEE, WOULD YOU JUST STAND SO
THEY CAN SEE YOU. [ APPLAUSE ]
AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO GET TO OUR LAST PICTURE.
THAT WAS MALIK. HE WAS AT THE BEGINNING AND HE
LOOKED LIKE A BABY THEN AND THAT’S A PICTURE OF OUR CORE
TEAM AND I WANT YOU TO SEE THE SPACE.
AND SO KIND OF A DIAGRAM OF WHAT WE HOPE TO CREATE.
WE’RE STARTING WITH PHASE ONE AND IT WILL BE EIGHT RAISED
BEDS, SOME PERFORMANCE AND EDUCATION SPACE, AND SOME ART
AND A LITTLE SEATING AND AS I SAID, WE’RE GOING TO TART
ACTIVATING THE — START ACTIVATING THE SPACE
IMMEDIATELY. I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
ADDRESS YOU AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I’LL BE HAPPY TO
ANSWER THEM.>>YOU HEAR ME TALK ABOUT BEING
A COLLABORATIVE, CONNECTED, CREATIVE COMMUNITY AND IF
THERE’S A BETTER EXAMPLE, I DON’T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
THE LAST SLIDE GRABBED OUR ATTENTION.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT GOING FROM ONE BED SMALLER THAN THIS TABLE
TO A VISION THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT AND A MISSION LIKE THIS, WE FELT
LIKE YOU ALL NEEDED TO SEE THAT.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. RIDDICK.>>DEIDRE PAID TRIBUTE TO A LOT
OF PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO
RECOGNIZE HER EFFORTS AS FAR AS THIS IS CONCERNED.
THIS FACILITY STARTED OUT IN AN EMBRYONIC STAGE AT THE OLD LOCAL
1248 UNION HALL. A FRIEND OF MINE ON THEIR BOARD
WHEN THE ILA MOVED OUT TO PRINCESS ANNE ROAD, SAID, PAUL,
WHY DON’T YOU GET THE CITY TO BUY IT, AND SO WE WERE FORTUNATE
ENOUGH, I THINK BEHIND REGINA WILLIAMS, WE MADE $300,000 FOR
THE PROPERTY, AND IT STARTED OFF AS AN AFTER-SCHOOL TUTORING
FACILITY, AND THEN TEENS WITH A PURPOSE CAME ALONG, AND LET ME
TELL YOU SOMETHING. THAT FACILITY IS WORTH MUCH,
MUCH MORE THAN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE PAID FOR IT BASED ON
WHAT IT HAS DONE. AND DEIDRE, I JUST WANT TO THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS. YOU MENTIONED WYNTER, HE STARTED
MAYBE A YEAR AGO, YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
MALIK, THE YOUNG MAN SHE MENTIONED, SAID TO ME WHY DOES
NORFOLK HAVE AN ARTS DISTRICT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ST. PAUL
BOULEVARD AND NOTHING ON MY SIDE OF TOWN?
SO WYNTER ROLLED HIS SLEEVES UP AND WITH THE EFFORT OF MARCUS
JONES AND DURING HIS MANAGEMENT PERIOD, AND CREATED THIS, AND
IT’S UP TO US AS A COUNCIL NOW TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
THE CHILDREN THAT COME IN FROM PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITIES AND
THE SURROUNDING AREA AND IT CERTAINLY GIVES THEM A SENSE OF
WORTH AND IF YOU’VE NEVER BEEN TO ONE OF THEIR POETRY EVENTS,
THEY HAVE ONE DOWN AT THE ROPER THEATER AND THESE YOUNGSTERS ARE
GREAT AND SKILLED IN TERMS OF THE SPOKEN WORD AND POETRY, AND
I THANK THIS COUNCIL HERE FOR SUPPORTING THEM IN OUR BUDGETARY
EFFORTS AND DELIBERATIONS, AND I JUST HOPE WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT
BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE US ANOTHER SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF AS A
COUNCIL. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHO NOW KNOW ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, YOU’VE SEEN
IT PROBABLY AS A BUDGETARY ITEM IN THE PAST, YOU DIDN’T QUESTION
IT, YOU SUPPORTED IT, AND SO LET’S JUST CONTINUE TO TAKE IT
TO THE NEXT LEVEL. THANK YOU, THAT’S IT.
>>MS. GRAVES.>>I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU
SAID, MR. RIDDICK, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY TO YOU, GOOD JOB.
IT IS EVIDENT AND SOMEBODY HAS TO HAVE THE VISION AND YOU DID
THAT AND THEN IT’S EVIDENT WHEN YOU SEE THE CHILDREN AND THE
YOUNG ADULTS, YOUR LOVE FOR THEM AND YOUR PATIENCE WITH THEM, AND
YOU ALL ARE EVERYWHERE! WE SHOW UP TO PROGRAMS AND TEENS
WITH A PURPOSE ARE ON THE PROGRAM, THEY’RE PRESENTING
THEIR TALENTS AND GIVING BACK IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, SO THANK
YOU FOR YOUR VISION AND NOT GIVING UP AND WHAT YOU POUR INTO
THE LIFE BECAUSE ALL OF THIS CAME BECAUSE YOU HAD A VISION,
SO THANK YOU WHAT YOU DO AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU POUR INTO
THE LIVES OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
IT IS EXTRAORDINARY.>>IT IS, THANK YOU.
>>THANK YOU. MR. MANAGER.
>>THANK YOU, MAYOR. I’M GOING TO TAKE THE NEXT PIECE
MYSELF ALONG WITH JOHN KOWNACK FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND
WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A COOPERATION AGREEMENT THAT IS
OBVIOUSLY RELATED TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, BUT INVOLVES WHAT
WE’RE RIGHT NOW CALLING NEWTON CREEK AND ST. PAUL’S QUADRANT
AND WE’LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT I ASKED JOHN — I KNOW SOME
OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO
RECOGNIZE THEM.>>GOOD AFTERNOON.
WE’RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE OUR CHAIR, OUR VICE CHAIR AND BOARD
MEMBERS HERE.>>THANK YOU.
AS I SAID, I’M REALLY GOING TO PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK FOR
DISCUSSION AND I THINK IT WILL TAKE PLACE GOING FORWARD AND THE
DOCUMENT THAT’S AT YOUR PLACES WOULD ACTUALLY COME BEFORE YOU
FOR A VOTE ON JULY 18th. IN YOUR 2018 BUDGET, $14 MILLION
THAT GOES INTO EFFECT ON JULY 1st ON THE CIP OVER THE NEXT
FIVE YEARS FOR THE DEMOLITION AND DISPOSITION OF TIDEWATER
GARDENS, YOUNG TERRACE AND CALVERT SQUARE AND WE FEEL LIKE
IT’S IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BE VERY
CLEAR ON WHAT OUR — EACH OF OUR ROLES ARE.
IT’S OBVIOUSLY A DRAFT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT I WANTED TO
AGAIN START TO FRAME THAT CONVERSATION.
YOUR PRIORITIES OF EDUCATION, HOUSING AND PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU
KNOW, WE TALKED A LOT AT THE RETREAT ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT
THESE THINGS THROUGH THE LENS OF RESILIENCE AND ALL THE DECISIONS
THAT WE MAKE ARE ABOUT BEING A RESILIENT COMMUNITY.
WE KNOW THAT WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND HOW THEY LIVE IMPACTS THEIR
EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND IT IMPACTS THEIR SAFETY IN THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS. I’LL TELL YOU THAT MANY PEOPLE
HEAR THE WORD RESILIENCE AND THEY THINK HOW WE RESPOND TO SEA
LEVEL RISE AND IN FACT SEA LEVEL — RESILIENCE IS KEY TO
ALL WE DO. IT’S ABOUT HOW PREPARED OUR
COMMUNITY IS IN THE EVENT OF AN INCIDENT AND ABOUT HOW OUR
CITIZENS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HANDLE DAILY STRIFE.
S IN 2015, COUNCIL APPROVED THE NORFOLK PLAN TO REDUCE POVERTY.
WITH 22% OF OUR RESIDENTS LIVING IN NEIGHBORHOODS OF CONCENTRATED
POVERTY A HOLISTIC AND COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY IS
NEEDED. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, NORFOLK
RELEASED ITS RESILIENT STRATEGY WITH AN EYE TOWARDS DESIGNING
THE COASTAL COMMUNITY OF THE FUTURE AND LIVING WITH WATER.
IT AIMS TO BUILD RESILIENCE IN A HOLISTIC WAY BY ALSO FOCUSING ON
DECONCENTRATING POVERTY AND GROWING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
BUT A LOT IS ALREADY HAPPENING AND IS ALREADY UNDERWAY AND
WE’RE PUTTING THAT UNDER THE HEADING OF GROWING OPPORTUNITY.
WE’LL CONTINUE TO GROW THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE’VE PUT IN
PLACE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
THIS EFFORT WILL CONTINUE THE WORK OF THE POVERTY COMMISSION
AND THE RESILIENCE OFFICE TO CREATE BETTER HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES, BETTER EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, AND
BETTER JOB OPPORTUNITIES, BETTER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.
PROGRAMS LIKE NORFOLK WORKS, BANK ON, WE FEED NORFOLK, THE
PATHWAY TO PROSPERITY JOB FAIR, QUALITY EARLY EDUCATION
PROGRAMS, WILL ALL BE KEY TO OUR WORK IN NEWTONS CREEK AND
CITYWIDE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT YOU TO HEAR TODAY IS THIS
MUST BE MORE THAN A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
WE WILL ALSO PUT IN PLACE ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE, A
PILOT PROGRAM TO STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOODS, A RESPONSE TEAM
THAT WORKS WITH NEIGHBORHOODS TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT MAY RESULT
IN CHANGING NEIGHBORHOODS, A STRONG NETWORK OF SUPPORTIVE
WRAP-AROUND SERVICES AND POLICIES TO ENSURE WE DON’T
RECONCENTRATE POVERTY IN ALREADY FRAGILE SUBMARKETS.
THIS INITIATIVE AT ITS CORE IS ABOUT AGREEING OPPORTUNITY FOR
OUR RESIDENTS. OUR RECENTLY COMPLETED HOUSING
STUDY GIVES US THE STRATEGY AND GOALS THAT COUNCIL IDENTIFIED,
STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH THE OUR CITY AND DECONCENTRATING
POVERTY. THIS EVENING WE’RE FOCUS IS ON
THE POVERTY. THE WORK OF THE POVERTY
COMMISSION AND THE RESILIENCE OFFICE WILL CONTINUE TO PLAY AN
IMPORTANT ROLE IN THIS PROCESS. THIS COUNCIL HAS MADE IT CLEAR
THAT THE STATUS QUO OF CONCENTRATED POVERTY IN NORFOLK
IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE. FOR WEAKER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
ARE ON THE RISE WHERE THERE IS STRONG LEADERSHIP, GOOD HOUSING
STOCK, THERE ARE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES IN OUR TOOLBOX TO
BEGIN STRENGTHENING THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE WANT TO RAISE MEDIAN INCOME AND HOUSEHOLD VALUES IN THOSE
NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE’LL DO THIS THROUGH THE GEM LOT WORK,
THROUGH HOUSING INCENTIVES AND ENHANCING STRONG LEADERSHIP IN
THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IN OUR PUBLIC HOUSING NEIGHBORHOODS,
THE HOUSING STUDY TELLS US WE NEED A TOTAL TRANSFORMATION THAN
THAT STRATEGY IS THE A PURPOSE-BUILT COMMUNITY MODEL,
CREATING NEIGHBORHOODS OF CHOICE BY IMPROVING HOUSING STOCK,
IMPROVING EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS, AND IMPROVING COMMUNITY
SERVICES, COMMUNITY SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.
SO OUR COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO DECONCENTRATING POVERTY HAD
THREE INITIATIVES. WE WILL IMPROVE CHOICE THROUGH
IMPROVEMENTS TO PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITIES.
THAT MEANS 1700 UNITS OF PUBLIC HOUSING WILL BE REDEVELOPED OVER
THE NEXT DECADE. IT MEANS END VANSING PHYSICAL
AND SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT THERE AND IT MEANS NO INVOLUNTARY
DISPLACEMENT OF RESIDENTS OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY WILL TAKE
PLACE. STRENGTHENING NEIGHBORHOODS IS
CITYWIDE, MEANING PROVIDING CHOICE TO RESIDENTS IN
NEIGHBORHOODS OF OPPORTUNITY, NATIONALLY, REGIONALLY, AND
LOCALLY. IT MEANS A COMMITMENT TO NOT
RECONCENTRATE FAMILIES INTO NEIGHBORHOODS OF POVERTY.
AND IT MEANS FACILITATING THE DEVELOPMENT OF QUALITY,
AFFORDABLE, AND ACCOUNTABLE RENTAL UNITS THROUGHOUT THE
CITY. INCREASING CAPACITY TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF HOUSING CHOICE MEANS DEVELOPING COLLABORATIVE
MODELS WITH HUMAN SERVICES AGENCIES, A COMMUNITY
QUARTERBACK TO ENSURE CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS HAVE THE
CAPACITIES TO SUCCEED WITH HOUSING CHOICE.
SO LET’S TALK ABOUT THE PLANNING EFFORTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE
THUS FAR. CANDIDLY, I WOULD SAY TO YOU
TONIGHT, WE’VE GOT MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.
THAT’S OKAY. I SPOKE TO ONE CITY OFFICIAL
ABOUT THIS PROJECT WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON’T BRING THINGS TO
COUNCIL THAT ARE THIS CONCEPTUAL AND I SAY IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE
TO COME TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AT THIS CONCEPTUAL PHASE.
IF WE COME WITH A FULLY BAKED PLAN, WE’LL NEVER GET COMMUNITY
BUY LYNN. THERE IS SKEPTICISM AND A LEVEL
OF MISTRUST IN THE COMMUNITY WHICH WE MUST ACKNOWLEDGE.
WE MUST BRING STAKEHOLDERS INTO THE DISCUSSION AND THE CREATION
OF A STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD. LOOKING AT PREVIOUS PLANNING
EFFORTS, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF WORK’S BEEN DONE.
WE HAD A CLANCY PROPOSAL THAT CAME THROUGH SEVERAL YEARS AGO,
THE DUTCH DIALOGUE THAT WE’LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT, AND A
PART OF THE PROCESS WE’RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW IS REALLY
ANALYZING THOSE PREVIOUS PLANS, STARTING TO IDENTIFY SOME
CONSENSUS AROUND THOSE PLANS, AT LEAST AT A STAFF LEVEL, AND THEN
DESIGNING WHAT WE THINK AT THIS POINT ARE THE BEST ELEMENTS OF
EACH OF THOSE PLANS AND BEGINNING TO DRAFT A PHASING
STRATEGY. JUST TO REMIND YOU OF WHERE
WE’VE BEEN, THE ST. PAUL’S AREA PLAN AGAIN WAS DEVELOPED BY
GOODY CLANCY TEN-PLUS YEARS AGO AND AT THAT POINT, YOU WERE
PROPOSING A MIXED INCOME, MIXED USE COMMUNITY WITH DIVERSE
BUILDING TYPES AND A CONNECTION TO DOWNTOWN.
MR. RIDDICK SAID IT EARLIER AND HE REMIND IS US IN THE EIGHT
MONTHS I’VE BEEN HERE AND IT REALLY DIDN’T OCCUR TO ME UNTIL
THEN, WHAT A DIVIDING LINE ST. PAUL’S BOULEVARD IS AND HAS BEEN
TO THE COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY FOR THE AFRICAN AMERICAN
COMMUNITY, SO THIS CONNECTION TO DOWNTOWN FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THE GOODY CLANCY PLAN BEGAN TO
BUILD SOME OPEN SPACE AND TO MANAGE WATER, BUT IT DID NOT
CONSIDER THE FULL EFFECTS OF THE WATERSHED AND NOW IT AFFECTS THE
ENTIRE AREA. CHURCHES WERE A BIG PART OF THE
PLANNING PROCESS AND VIEWED AS LANDMARK IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT
THE SIGHT DESIGN WAS FLAWED AND CALLED FOR ONE-FOR-ONE
REPLACEMENT, MEANING 1800IONSES OF HOUSING COMING BACK ON JUST
THE TIDEWATER SITE AND WHAT WE’RE LEARNING THAT IS
PHYSICALLY, THAT WAS IMPOSSIBLE, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE, AND ESPECIALLY
AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT MANAGING WATER.
YOU’LL RECALL THE DUMP DIALOGUE CONVERSATION — DUTCH DIALOGUE
CONVERSATIONS THAT CAME IN RELATIVE TO THE NATIONAL
DISASTER RESILIENCE COMPETITION AND ALTHOUGH IT’S NOT A LAND USE
PLAN, THIS PLANNING PROCESS FOCUSED MONTH ARE ON
CONNECTIVITY AND WATER MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS ECONOMIC
VITALITY LOOKING THROUGH THE RESILIENCE LENS.
IT ALSO EXPANDED THE AREA TO THE LARGER SYSTEM OF ALL THREE
PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITIES IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH WATER.
SO APPLYING LAND USE FROM THOSE PREVIOUS PLANS.
LOOK AT THE LAND USE PATTERN OF THE ST. PAUL’S QUADRANT ON THE
LEFT. ON THE RIGHT, THAT IS OVERLAID
WITH THE DUTCH DIALOGUE PLAN, SO ON THE RIGHT, YOU’RE STARTING TO
SEE THE ELEMENTS WE THINK COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO A LONG-TERM
PLAN AND IT INCLUDES CHURCH STREET RESTORED AS A TRADITIONAL
SHOPPING STREET LINED WITH MIXED BUILDINGS AND COMMERCIAL USES ON
THE GROUND FLOOR AND RESIDENTIAL USES ABOVE, AND IN THIS PICTURE,
YOU START TO SEE IN MY MIND WHAT AN IMPORTANT INTERSECTION CHURCH
AND BRAMBLETON WILL BECOME OVER TIME AND A FOCAL POINT.
IT INCLUDES HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE BUILDINGS IN THE BLOCKS
BETWEEN CHURCH AND ST. PAUL’S BOULEVARD WHICH MAKES AN
EFFECTIVE TRANSITION BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND THE RESIDENTIAL
AREAS TO THE EAST AND YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE THE LARGE BLUE
AND GREEN SPACES ALONG TIDEWATER DRIVER WHICH IS WHERE YOU’VE GOT
TO MANAGE THE FLOODING THAT IS TAKING PLACE IN SUCH A DRAMATIC
WAY TODAY. WE’LL TALK ABOUT THAT FLOODING
FOR A MOMENT. AT TIMES, YOU ALL KNOW, MOST OF
CALVERT AND TIDEWATER ARE UNDER WATER.
WE BEGIN TO SEE IT’S IMPORTANT TO IMPROVE THESE AREAS THAT
FLOOD, BUT THE MOST OF THAT’S AREAS WILL NOT BE DEVELOPABLE
LAND AND NEED TO BE USED TO MANAGE WATER.
NEWTON’S CREEK GIVES US A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AND THIS IS MAYBE
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I’LL SAY TONIGHT.
IT GIVES US A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO TEST OUR RESILIENT STRATEGY.
IF WE HAVE TO REDESIGN THE COMMUNITY TO MANAGE WATER, HOW
CAN WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT ALSO DECONCENTRATING POVERTY AND
PROVIDES ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS?
SO THEN WE START TALKING ABOUT PHASING AND I’M GOING TO ASK
JOHN TO JUMP UP AND TALK FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE I THINK IT’S
IMPORTANT TO HEAR HOW THIS PLAYS OUT IN THE WORK OF THE HOUSING
AUTHORITY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORANGE
BLOCKS, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY DEVELOP FIRST.
THE BLUE SECTIONS ARE WHAT WE’LL DEVELOP SECTION AND THE GREEN
WOULD DEVELOP LAST. WHAT IT REALLY GIVES US A LOT OF
FLEXIBILITY AND A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY THAT WE LOSE BECAUSE
OF THE DEVELOPABLE PROPERTIES THAT ARE TAKEN AWAY FROM
FLOODING. SO JOHN, IF YOU DON’T MIND.
>>SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON.
THIS IS TIDEWATER GARDENS ON THE BOTTOM.
IT’S CALVERT SQUARE ON THE RIGHT, AND YOUNG TERRACE ON THE
LEFT. AS YOU CAN SEE, PROBABLY IN THE
COOPERATION AGREEMENT AND THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS ALSO
ENDORSED BY OUR BOARD IS ONE OF OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS TO
PROVIDE AS MUCH HOUSING CHOICE TO THE RESIDENTS OF THESE
COMMUNITIES AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, AND THAT INCLUDES THE CHOICE TO
STAY UNTIL THERE’S NEW HOUSING FOR THEM.
THERE’S THE CHOICE TO MOVE TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY OR TO TAKE A
VOUCHER AND MOVE INTO PRIVATE HOUSING THROUGHOUT NORFOLK AND
THROUGHOUT THE REGION. WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO DO WITH OUR
SEQUENCING IS TO GIVE THE BEST CHANCE OF THAT CHOICE NOT
RESULTING IN THE NEED FOR DISPLACEMENT, BUT AS YOU SEE
HERE, AND IF YOU GO BACK A SLIDE MAYBE, MR. SMITH, THE FLOODING
OVER HERE, OBVIOUSLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE’RE INTERESTED
AND HUD IS INTERESTED IN ALLEVIATING IN TERMS OF
DEMOLITION QUICKLY AND THEN MOVE BACK TO THE SEQUENCE — DO YOU
HAVE A RUNAWAY FINGER THERE? ONE MORE — TWO MORE, ACTUALLY.
SO USING THAT FLOOD — [ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ]
[ LAUGHTER ]>>SO AT THE PACE OF ABOUT 100
TO 150 UNITS A YEAR OF ABSORPTION, BECAUSE FOR FOLKS
LEAVING THE COMMUNITY, ONE OF OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE WE’RE STRENGTHENING COMMUNITIES, NOT
NEGATIVELY IMPACTING COMMUNITIES, NOT RECONCENTRATING
POVERTY, SO THERE IS A RATE OF HEALTHY ABSORPTION THAT IS GOING
TO HAVE TO BE DETERMINED AND WE START WITH A PROJECTION AND WE
HAVE TO MEASURE IT YEAR BY YEAR, BUT WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT
100 TO 150 UNITS A YEAR THAT WILL BE VACATED AND CLEARED,
BEING ABLE TO SUBMIT A DEMOLITION DISPOSITION
APPLICATION, WHICH IS WHAT IS NECESSARY TO SUBMIT TO HUD ON
ALL THREE, WILL ALLOW US TO STOP REHOUSING IN ALL THREE.
SO WHAT WE’D LIKE TO PROPOSE IS WE MOVE AHEAD THROUGH A — AND
IT’S A REALLY LENGTHY PROCESS, PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE SIX TO
SEVEN MONTHS TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, TO SUBMIT A DEMOLITION
DISPOSITION APPLICATION PACKET FOR ALL THREE COMMUNITIES, AND
IDENTIFY THE ORANGE FIRST, WHICH WOULD BE FLOODING MOSTLY IN
TIDEWATER AND CALVERT, BUT ALSO IDENTIFY PARCELS THAT WOULD
ALLOW US TO BUILD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF
THE OPTIONS OF MAKING THAT CHOICE AVAILABLE TO STAY IS TO
UTILIZE LAND TO BUILD FIRST. YOU SEE THE ORANGE IN THE MIDDLE
IS REALLY ALONG CHURCH STREET AND IT CAN BE COMBINED HOPEFULLY
WITH SUCCESSFUL EFFORTS TO GET THE POST OFFICE AND ALSO OTHER
CITY-OWNED PROPERTY TO PROVIDE LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THESE PHASES, IT’S LAID OUT THIS WAY REALLY
WITH THE BIGGEST GOAL OF PROVIDING THE BEST OPPORTUNITY
TO PROVIDE CHOICES TO THE RESIDENTS.
>>ALL RIGHT. ONE THING JOHN TOUCHED ON THAT I
THINK IS GOING TO BE A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS IS
ABSORPTION AND WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT IN
A MOMENT, BUT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE ORDER OF
MAGNITUDE OVER TIME OF A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF DEVELOPMENT AND
HOW MUCH AND HOW QUICKLY CAN OUR COMMUNITY ABSORB THAT
DEVELOPMENT, AND HAVING A MIXED USE PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO A
SINGLE USE PROJECT ALLOWS YOU TO AT TIMES TO BE BRINGING ON
HOUSING AND I THINK THIS IS MOSTLY A HOUSING PROJECT, BUT
ALSO BRINGING ON COMMERCIAL AND SOME RETAIL USES CONCURRENT.
THE COOPERATION AGREEMENT THAT’S BEHALF YOU, THE PURPOSE OF THE
AGREEMENT IS REALLY TO APPROVE THE REDEVELOPMENT AND TO
ESTABLISH A GENERAL WORKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND
THE AUTHORITY TO COORDINATE THEIR ACTIVITIES IN SUPPORT OF
THE DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, THAT WILL COME BACK
BEFORE YOU ON THE 18th OF JULY, BUT YOU HAVE A DRAFT IN FRONT OF
YOU. IN TERMS OF GOVERNANCE, ALL
EFFORTS BY THE CITY AND THE AUTHORITY SHALL BE GOVERNED BIT
PLAN AND ASSISTED BY A NEW SINGLE PURPOSE ENTITY.
PART OF WHAT WE’RE THINKING HERE IS IT’S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE
AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAKES UP AND THINKS ABOUT THIS AND ONLY
THIS PROJECT EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND THAT JOHN OR SOMEBODY ON
JOHN’S STAFF OR SUSAN OR SOMEBODY ON OUR STAFF, YOU KNOW,
HAS A MYRIAD OF OTHER THINGS TO DO AND WE NEED — THIS IS BIG
AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE NEED A PROGRAM MANAGER THAT IN ALL
LIKELIHOOD REPORTS TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE CITY MANAGER TO MANAGE THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT PLAN, BUT I WANT YOU TO BE CLEAR AND
MR. PISHKO HELPED US IMPORTANT THIS INTO THE COOPERATION
AGREEMENT. COUNCIL STAYS IN CONTROL.
THERE ARE CERTAIN POINTS WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS
AND THE APPROVALS AND THAT’S AS IT SHOULD BE.
IN ADDITION TO THE APPROVAL OF THE COOPERATION AGREEMENT, IT’S
ANTICIPATED THE COUNCIL AND AUTHORITY’S BOARD OF DIRECTORS
WILL APPROVE THE CREATION OF THAT SINGLE PURPOSE ENTITY.
WE’LL WRAP UP TO TALK ABOUT THE GOALS AND THE TIMELINE.
DECONCENTRATE, OUR GOAL, STRAIGHT FORWARD, YOU’VE SEEN IT
BEFORE. DECONCENTRATE POVERTY AND
DEVELOP HIGH QUALITY, MIXED INCOME, MIXED USE COMMUNITIES OF
CHOICE. SO INCREASE SELF-SUFFICIENCY,
FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE AND SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES FOR
DISADVANTAGED FAMILIES THROUGH THE PROVISION OF SUITABLE
HOUSING CHOICES AND CAPACITY BUILDING SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.
THE LAST ONE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
PROVIDE ACCESS TO EXCELLENT EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH NORFOLK PUBLIC SCHOOLS, LOCAL COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES, AND EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION
INSTITUTIONS. LET ME BE CLEAR.
WE WILL NOT BE SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT THE EARLY AND CONSTANT
INVOLVEMENT OF THE NORFOLK PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, SO WE’VE
OBVIOUSLY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DR. BOONE AND OTHERS, BUT
THEATION OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU PROVIDE IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE
GOING TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
SO WHAT ARE THE NEXT FEW MONTHS LOOKING LIKE?
OBVIOUSLY WE’RE HERE TONIGHT TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS
AGREEMENT. IT COMES BACK TO YOU ON THE
18th. WE HAVE A DEVELOPER ROUNDTABLE
SET UP FOR LATER IN THE WEEK, WHICH IS JUST BRINGING A GROUP
OF LOCAL DIVPSERS INTO A ROOM TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE’RE
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND FRANKLY BRAINSTORM WITH THEM ABOUT A
PROJECT OF THIS SCALE AND WHAT IS IT THAT THEY WOULD BE
INTERESTED IN, WHAT WOULD THEY NEED IN TERMS OF INFORMATION TO
MOVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS FORWARD.
OUR ASSUMPTION AT THIS POINT IS THERE WILL BE A MASTER
DEVELOPER, SOMEBODY THAT DOES THE HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT, THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROADS AND WHAT NOT.
ON THE 29th, WE’VE GOT A PASTORS ROUNDTABLE.
THE FAITH COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF
THIS PROJECT AND SO WE’RE MEETING WITH THEM AND THE FOLKS
FROM PURPOSE BUILT ARE ACTUALLY COMING IN AND TALKING ABOUT SORT
OF THE HUMAN SIDE OF THIS CONVERSATION.
I SAID IT EARLIER. IF WE TREAT THIS AS MERELY A
PHYSICAL REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT, WE WILL NOT BE SUCCESSFUL.
IF WE DON’T HAVE THEIR BUY-IN, WE WILL NOT BE SUCCESSFUL.
WE START IN MID JULY WITH MEETINGS OF THE TENANT
MANAGEMENT COUNCILS AND LATE IN THE SUMMER, WE’D LIKE TO HAVE A
PROGRAM MANAGER SELECTED. WE’VE UNDERTAKEN AN ABSORPTION
STUDY THAT WILL TELL US WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR IN TERMS OF
PRODUCTS WE BRING ONLINE AND I THINK WE’LL HAVE IT BY THE END
OF THE SUMMER. MORE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN THE
EARLY FALL AND THEN LOOK AT A SOLICITATION FOR A MASTER
DEVELOPER AS EARLY AS THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY QUARTERBACK THAT WE
TALKED ABOUT WITH YOU ALL A FEW TIMES, WHICH IS THE NONPROFIT
THAT REALLY DRIVES THE HANDLING OF THE RESIDENTS AND THE SUPPORT
OF THE RESIDENTS, AND THE DEMOLITION DISPOSITION
APPLICATION THAT JOHN TALKED ABOUT WOULD BE SUBMITTED IN LATE
FALL OR EARLY WINTER AND THAT ALLOWS, AS JOHN SAID, ALLOWS THE
HOUSING AUTHORITY TO STOP REHOUSING IN THOSE THREE
PROJECTS. SO WITH THAT SAID, I’LL TELL YOU
THAT JOHN AND I ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND DR. SUSAN
PERRY IS ALSO HERE AS WELL.>>MR. RIDDICK.
>>YES. NATURALLY I’M — I CALL IT
GENTRIFICATION. KNOCK IS NOT THE FIRST CITY IN
THE COUNTRY TO REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, GENTRIFICATION TAKES
PLACE. I’VE MET WITH SUSAN AND I MET
WITH RAY AND MET WITH JOHN KOWNACK AND THE CITY MANAGER AND
I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AND THERE’S JUST SO MANY THINGS
THAT — SO MANY MOVING PARTS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD
LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNCIL OF IS THAT I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS
AGO IT WAS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ST. PAUL’S BOULEVARD
QUADRANT. THEY EXPANDED THE FOOTPRINT TO
INCLUDE HUNTERSVILLE, HUNTERS SQUARE, BRAMBLETON, AND THE
CONCERN AT THAT TIME AND STILL REMAINS TO ME THAT IS I DON’T
WANT THIS TO BE A DUMPING GROUND FOR THE PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENTS
THROUGH SECTION 8 PROGRAMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WHAT THAT DOES, YOU TALK ABOUT DECONCENTRATING POVERTY, BUT
WHAT YOU’RE DOING, IF IT HAPPENS, YOU’RE COMPLICATING THE
POVERTY ISSUE, SO THAT’S ONE THING WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED
ABOUT. THERE’S AN IMAGINARY LINE IN
NORFOLK IN TERMS OF ST. PAUL’S BOULEVARD.
WEST OF ST. PAUL’S THE WHITE NORFOLK AND EAST OF ST. PAUL’S
BOULEVARD IS BLACK NORFOLK. TO THOSE OF YOU WHO DON’T — IF
YOU’RE OFFENDED, WHEN YOU NEED TO ROLL YOUR SLEEVES UP AND
CHANGE THAT, OKAY? NOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS
THAT COULD BE DONE. LET’S JUST SAY, FOR INSTANCE, IF
WE WERE REALLY — AND YOU TALK ABOUT $14 MILLION WORTH OF
DEMOLITION, BUT YOU HAVEN’T SAID ANYTHING ABOUT REPLACING
ANYTHING. YOU HAVE $14 MILLION OF
GOVERNMENT MONEY FOR DEMOLITION, BUT YOU HAVEN’T COMMITTED ANY
GOVERNMENT MONEY FOR REPLACING THE HOUSING.
YOU’RE LOOKING FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND DO THINGS OF THAT
NATURE. WE REALLY WANT TO BE FAIR AND
HONEST ABOUT THIS, IT WOULD OFFEND SOME NEIGHBORS, BUT LET’S
SAY — IF YOU TAKE THE PARKING LOT, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE
STREET FROM TIDEWATER PARK, NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL, YOU TAKE THAT
LOT AND BUILD A NICE SENIOR FACILITY AND ONE THING NORFOLK
HAS ALWAYS DONE WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITIES,
YOU SEPARATE THINGS AS FAR AS RACE IS CONCERNED.
YOU CAN’T DO THAT. TOMMY AND I RECOGNIZE THE FACT
THAT THERE ARE JUST AS MANY PEOPLE FROM THE WHITE COMMUNITY
WHO SUFFER THE SAME THINGS AS FAR AS POVERTY IS CONCERNED THAT
NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE’RE REALLY GENUINE, WE TAKE THAT PARKING LOT AND BUILD A
NICE SENIOR FACILITY AND WE GO AROUND AND INVENTORY AND WE GET
LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS FROM BOTH RACES.
IF WE WERE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT DEACON SEND STRAIGHTING POVERTY,
GOING DOWN MONTICELLO AVENUE, STARTING AT THE GREYHOUND BUS
STATION, THERE’S SO MANY PIECES OF PROPERTY, OLD HRT PROPERTY
THAT WE COULD DO SOME THINGS WITH, BUT WE CAN’T JUST
CONCENTRATE THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE WANT TO GENTRIFY INTO
THE SAME AREA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK
THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY NEEDS TO LOOK AT, IF WE WANT TO BE
SUCCESSFUL, AND IT’S HAPPENED BEFORE, ESCROWING THE RENT OF
SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS SO THAT WHEN THEY MOVE, SOME OF
THEM WOULD BE ABLE TO BUY HOMES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND
IT’S JUST — RIGHT NOW, IT’S JUST TOO MANY MOVING PARTS.
WE HAVE THIS GROUP HERE TALKING ABOUT IT AND THEN YOU PROBABLY
HAVE ANOTHER SIDESHOW OF INDIVIDUALS TALKING ABOUT IT,
AND WHILE WE SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT
THAT YOU WANT THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE, I STRONGLY BELIEVE
THAT THERE’S AN INVISIBLE HAND, THAT WE’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
THIS FOR 17 YEARS, AND SO SOMEHOW THIS INVISIBLE HAND IS
SAYING, OKAY, GUYS, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE TIME TO DO IT.
THE LAND THAT — WHERE — LAYS VACANT FOR 17 YEARS BEFORE
ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
AND SO LET ME SAY A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, TOO.
THERE ARE PROBABLY NOT FIVE CITIES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT HAVE
BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH URBAN RENEWAL AS NORFOLK.
WE HAVE A GREAT TRACK RECORD WHEN IT COMES TO URBAN RENEWAL,
AND SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF, BUT WHEN WE GO TO THEFT, WE
CANNOT MAKE THE URBAN RENEWAL BUILT ON THE BACKS OF
INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN’T FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES, YOU KNOW.
AND OUR RESIDENTS OF EVERY PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITY IN THIS
CITY, I’M NOT ASHAMED TO ROLL MY SLEEVES UP AND FIGHT FOR THESE
PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENTS. I’VE BEEN IN THIS TOWN ALL MY
LIFE, AND THERE’S NOTHING YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT NORFOLK,
THERE’S NOTHING YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT THE ANNEX OF NORFOLK,
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, SO WHEN I COME TO YOU WITH THE PACKET FROM
ME, IT’S BECAUSE I KNOW HOW TRICKY NORFOLK CAN BE AND I SAY
THAT IF ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS OFFENDED, I’M SORRY, BUT I KNOW
WHAT IT IS. I’VE SEEN HOW IT — I REMEMBER
WHEN THEY DID GHENT, WHICH WAS SUCCESSFUL.
I’M GLAD WE HAVE GHENT. I’M SO GLAD WE HAVE IT, AND THE
HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE CITY TOLD EVERYBODY, BUT — I’M PROUD
OF EAST BEACH. I FOUGHT — WHEN I FIRST BECAME
A MEMBER OF COUNCIL AND WE WENT DOWN TO OCEAN VIEW AND GOT RID
OF THOSE SHANTIES AND SOME OF THOSE HOMES TO BUILD EAST BEACH,
I’M PROUD OF EAST BEACH, YOU KNOW.
THAT’S WHAT WE NEED. SO IF WE’RE GOING TO BE PROUD OF
THIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO SCARS OR
WOUNDS OR ANY BAD EPITAPHS ABOUT NORFOLK BECAUSE OF THE
COMMUNITIES THAT WE’RE GOING INTO.
WE CAN GO INTO THIS AND LOOK BACK AND BE PROUD OF IT, BUT YOU
HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THIS IS — I GUESS ALMOST
100% — YOU MAY HAVE ONE OR TWO WHITE RESIDENTS LIVE THERE, BUT
WE HAVE 100% OF RESIDENTS IN THERE WHO ARE AFRICAN AMERICAN
AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, RAY, SUSAN AND
DOUG, THEY’RE JUST TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT WE
NEED TO WORK THROUGH AS A COUNCIL AS FAR AS THIS IS
CONCERNED. WE NEED TO TAKE AN INVENTORY AND
FIND OUT WHO LIVES THERE. LET’S TAKE TIDEWATER PARK FOR
EXAMPLE. WE NEED TO FIND OUT HOW MANY
SENIORS LIVE THERE AND YOU’D BE SURPRISED AT THE ANXIETY OVER
THE LAST 15 YEARS THAT THESE SENIORS HAVE HAD BECAUSE THEY
DIDN’T KNOW WHEN THE BULLDOZERS ARE COMING.
THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CHILDREN THAT LIVE THERE.
THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE PILOT THAT MORE CHILDREN LIVE IN
TIDEWATER PARK THAN ADULTS. THEN YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE CLOSE TO BEING LOERNS. THIS CAN BE DONE — BEING
HOMEOWNERS. THIS CAN BE DONE AND SUCCESSFUL.
I’M GLAD WE HAVE TWO PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ON THE TEAM WITH
US AND THIS COUNCIL, THIS COUNCIL CARES AND I BELIEVE THAT
I CAN APPEAR TO THE CONSCIENCE OF THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE
IT’S DONE RIGHT, BUT IT’S THE BUREAUCRATS THAT I’M WORRIED
ABOUT. I’M WORRIED ABOUT THE FACT THAT
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ARE THE HOUSE
OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND I’M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
THAT CAUSES ME SOME HEARTBURN AND SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO PUT SOME
STOP GAPS IN SO THE BOARD WOULD HAVE OVERSIGHT.
YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT YOU GUYS HAVING ALL THE DECISION
MAKING, BUT THAT CAN’T BE IT BECAUSE I’M CONCERNED ABOUT YOU
TWO BUREAUCRATS WHO WILL BE SITTING BACK OVER THE LIVES OF
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. SO I REALLY COULD, YOU KNOW, SAY
MORE AND I WILL SAY MORE LATER ON, BUT THIS IS VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT. IT’S VERY IMPORTANT.
WHEN I — I REMEMBER NORFOLK, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, YOU PROBABLY
KNOW THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST CITY IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY TO
RESEGREGATE A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEY HAD — JUST TAKE A
SECOND THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. THIS IS THE FIRST COUNTRY —
FIRST CITY IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY TO TURN ITS BACK ON BROWN VS.
BOARD OF EDUCATION AND THEY DIDN’T THINK A SECOND ABOUT IT.
SO JUST LIKE NORFOLK DID THAT, THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING HERE
AND DISPLACE ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS AND SCATTER THEM ALL
OVER THIS AREA AND NOT HAVE A SECOND THOUGHT ABOUT IT IF WE
LET THEM. SO AULT BE I CAN SAY IS — ALL I
CAN SAY IS IN ’18, DON’T RE-ELECT ME OR YOU’LL HAVE A
FIGHT ON YOUR HANDS. THAT’S IT.
>>MY — MR. RIDDICK, MY ONE COMMENT WOULD BE, AS BERNARD
REALLY HELD OUR FEET TO THE FIRE TO MAKE YOU ALL THE KEY DECISION
MAKERS, AND IF THE DOCUMENT DOESN’T READ THAT WAY, WE’LL
CHANGE IT.>>MR. THOMAS AND THEN MR.
SMIGIEL.>>THANK YOU.
WE’VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS, AND I THINK THAT
GETTING RID OF 1700 UNITS OF PUBLIC HOUSING, CONCENTRATED
POVERTY WOULD ITSELF BE A FAILURE FOR THE MOST PART AND IT
WILL BE OUR LEGACY. AS WE HAND OFF THE BATON OF
LEADERSHIP IN THIS CITY TO THE NEXT GENERATION, THIS HAS TO BE
SOMETHING THAT WE’RE PROUD OF. IN AND OF ITSELF, WE SAY WE’RE
GOING TO GET RID OF THE CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY.
THAT’S EASY TO SAY, AND WE CAN BE PROUD OF, BUT I WILL AGREE IN
PART WITH MR. RIDDICK. IT’S GOING TO COME DOWN TO
HOUSING AND SO WE’VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TRUST, CITIZENS
HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TRUST THE CITY, BUT I THINK WE’VE ALL
STUDIED THIS ENOUGH THAT INVOLVED ST. PAUL’S QUADRANT
PLANS, ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, TO KNOW THAT WE’VE GOT SOME GREAT
IDEAS FOR THAT AREA. THE DUTCH DIALOGUE BROUGHT EVEN
BETTER IDEAS IN. IT’S TIME TO DECONCENTRATE
POVERTY, GIVE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AN OPPORTUNITY, AND
LET’S BRING IN A NEW DAY FOR THE AREA.
>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TERM
MIXED INCOME. IT’S USED QUITE A BIT, BUT — SO
IF YOU’RE STILL GOING TO KEEP THE SAME AMOUNT OF UNITS THERE,
HOW MUCH MORE DENSITY ARE YOU ADDING TO THAT SECTION IN ORDER
TO CREATE A MIXED INCOME COMMUNITY?
BECAUSE IF YOU’RE JUST RETURNING BACK 1700 UNITS ON THE SAME
INCOME LEVEL, THEN WHAT ARE YOU ADDING TO THAT?
I FORGOT TO ASK THAT QUESTION IN OUR MEETING ON — JUST SOMETHING
THAT CAUGHT MY MIND. THEN IT JUST BECOMES A COMMUNITY
THE SAME WAY IT IS, WITH JUST NEWER BUILDINGS OR NEWER
HOUSING. HOW ARE WE CHANGING THAT?
>>A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, WE DON’T HAVE ANSWERS YET,
SO PART OF WHERE WE ARE IS REALLY SAYING TO THE COMMUNITY
IS WE’RE NOT COMING UP HERE WITH A PLAN.
WE’VE TAKEN THE OLD PLANS, LOOKED AT WHAT WE THINK ARE GOOD
ABOUT THEM, BUT WE’RE BRINGING IT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAYING
WE’RE GETTING STARTED. PART OF THE TERM MIXED INCOME,
WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS CREATE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH HAVE A
VARIETY OF PEOPLE OR A VARIETY OF INCOMES OR FAMILIES ALL WANT
TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO THAT SCHOOL REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH
MONEY THEY MAKE, SO WHAT THAT ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE, WE DON’T
KNOW YET.>>THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD
CAUTION ON AT AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE BECAUSE YOU
LOOK AT BROAD CREEK, YOU SEE A LOT OF EMPTY SPACES.
THEY’VE NEVER — AND WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM EVEN DOWN IN EAST
BEACH WITH BUILDING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE TOWN CENTER IN WITH
BUSINESSES THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT CONCEPT IS NOT THERE.
OPIATE EXTERIOR WHERE PEOPLE LIKE TO DRIVE BY AND PARK AND
GET THERE, AND THERE’S SOME WALK-UP, BUT NOT AS MUCH.
>>THAT’S A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THIS ABSORPTION STUDY WILL START
TO TELL US. YOU’RE EXACTLY RIGHT, HOW MUCH
THE MARKET CAN ABSORB, WE DON’T KNOW THAT ANSWER YET.
>>MS. GRAVES AND THEN MS. McCLELLAN.
>>I ECHO SOME OF MR. RIDDICK’S SENDMENT, MOST OF IT.
MY CONCERN DOES GO BACK TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN THE
PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS. I THINK AS WELL DONE AS ANY
PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE CAN BE DONE, THERE’S GOING TO BE SOME
PEOPLE WHO ARE — I BELIEVE IF WE KEEP THE WELL-BEING OF THE
RESIDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE AT THE FOREFRONT AND
MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE — AND EVEN IF THAT MEANS GOING AND
KNOCKING DOOR-TO-DOOR, IF THAT MEANS — SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND
AND KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING BEFORE IT’S HAPPENING AND NOT
HAVE IT HAPPEN TOMORROW. BUT IF WE UNDERSTAND WHAT’S
GOING ON AND THE TENANT MANAGEMENT PIECE IS IMPORTANT TO
GET THE BUY-IN FROM THE RESIDENTS.
I JUST WAS — I LIKE THE IDEA OF NOT BEING ABLE TO REHOUSE FOLKS
BECAUSE THAT IS A GREAT START. WHEN WE START TO TALK ABOUT
BUILDING, I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TOMMY TALKED ABOUT DENSITY
AND WE’RE REMODELING 1700 UNITS, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE’RE LOOKING
TO DOUBLE THE DENSITY IN THAT AREA BECAUSE, I MEAN, OTHERWISE
YOU’RE JUST SAYING 17 POOR PEOPLE OUT AND PUTTING — I MEAN
TAKING 1700 POOR PEOPLE OUT AND PUTTING 1700 POOR PEOPLE BACK IN
SO WITH NO MIXTURE OF ANYTHING, SO THAT DILUTION OF POVERTY IS
VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK DOWNTOWN WITH PROBABLY
HANDLE THE DENSITY AND IT MIGHT HELP WITH SOME OF THE RETAIL
BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT IT — RETAIL FEEDS OFF PEOPLE, BUT I THINK
THERE’S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND.
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE AND MAKING SURE WE’RE DILUTING THE
POVERTY NUMBERS.>>AND I’D JUST ADD ONE THING TO
THAT. I ECHO DOUG’S COMMENT THAT IT’S
NOT BAKED IN. WE DON’T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO
THAT, BUT JUST CURRENTLY, I MEAN, I WANT TO REMIND, THE
PLEDGE IS THAT FOLKS WHO ARE IN TIDEWATER, YOUNG AND CALVERT NOW
WILL WANT TO BE THERE, WANT TO STAY THERE, WANT TO MOVE INTO
NEW HOUSING THERE, OUR PLEDGE IS THERE WILL BE HOUSING FOR YOU
THERE. NOW, WE DON’T THINK 1700 UNITS
WILL BE NECESSARY TO MAKE THAT PLEDGE.
WE THINK THE NUMBER IS MORE LIKE 600, WHICH MEANS THE DENSITY FOR
THIS PROJECT DOESN’T HAVE TO DOUBLE IN ORDER TO HAVE A MIXED
INCOME COMMUNITY. BUT THERE’S A CHALLENGE IN THAT,
YOU KNOW, FOLKS — THE DIFFERENCE, 1100 FAMILIES, OUR
GOAL IS TO STILL PROVIDE AS MUCH RENTAL ASSISTANCE AS WE’RE
PROVIDING RIGHT NOW TO THAT NERF FAMILIES, BUT WE THINK THAT
PLEDGE RESULTS IN THE NEED FOR 600 UNITS OR THEREABOUTS ON
SIGHT, BUT THAT’S REALLY AS — ON SITE, BUT THAT’S REALLY AS
WE’RE GOING INTO THE PROJECT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TYPE OF
PLANNING ACTIVITIES THAT WILL GO ON AND WHAT TYPE OF HOUSING.
>>WHAT HAS HISTORICAL BEEN — IS YOUR 600-UNIT NUMBER BASED ON
HISTORICAL –>>BASED ON BROAD CREEK
EXPERIENCE, BASED ON CIRCLE, IT’S ACTUALLY WELL ABOVE WHAT
ENDS UP FOLKS RETURNING, BUT IN THIS CASE, WE’RE NOT PROPOSING
THAT WE DISPLACE FOLKS FIRST AND THEN HAVE FOLKS RETURN.
WE’RE PROPOSING BECAUSE OF THE ABSORPTION ABILITY THAT WE
ACTUALLY MEET THE PLEDGE OF LETTING FOLKS STAY IN THE
COMMUNITY WHILE THE DEMOLITION AND VACANCY AND REDEVELOPMENT IS
OCCURRING, SO I THINK THAT’S GOING TO MOVE THE NUMBER UP.
I THINK 600 WILL BE NEEDED FOR THAT.
HISTORICALLY, IT’S BEEN MORE LIKE 25% THAT ACTUALLY HAVE COME
BACK AND THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 400.
>>AND THAT’S MOVING PEOPLE AWAY AND THEN BRINGING THEM BACK?
>>BECAUSE ONCE THEY MOVE, WE CONTACT FOLKS AND THEY SAY, NO,
WE LIKE –>>WE’RE GOOD WHERE WE ARE.
>>WE’RE ALREADY HERE, WE DON’T WANT TO MOVE AGAIN.
>>I ALSO AGREE WITH MR. RIDDICK IN MAKING SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE
OF THE SENIORS AND DISABLED FOLKS THAT ARE LIVING IN THOSE
UNITS AND GIVING THEM — THEY’RE A PROTECTED CLASS, SO I BELIEVE
WE GIVE THEM IN FIRST CHANCE IN TERMS OF MOVING AND PREFERENCE
ALSO SO THAT IF THEY WANT TO STAY AND MOVE, THEY’RE ABLE TO
STAY AND MOVE ONE TIME AND BE DONE WITH IT.
>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>TWO QUICK POINTS.
ONE, I’M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE’RE LOOKING AT THE ISSUE OF
FLOODING THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE KIDS WHO CAN’T GET TO SCHOOL
BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS AND ROADS ARE FLOODED.
SHOUTOUT TO MOTHERS OUT THERE WORKING ON THIS ISSUE, SO IT’S
REALLY CRITICAL. WE CAN’T JUST PUT A BAND-AID ON
WHAT WE HAVE. AND NUMBER TWO, YOU DIDN’T USE
THE TERM PURPOSE BUILT COMMUNITIES IN THE DISCUSSION.
ARE WE STILL FOLLOWING THAT MODEL AND WHAT IS THAT
RELATIONSHIP?>>YES, I DID TALK ABOUT IT
QUICKLY, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE — THAT’S REALLY THE HUMAN
SIDE OF STAYING WITH THE FAMILIES AND, FRANKLY, IT’S THEM
MOVING AND STAY WITH THEY WILL AND THE ENTIRE FAMILY FOR YEARS,
NOT JUST FOR THAT SINGLE YEAR. SO THEY’RE ACTUALLY COMING TO
TOWN THURSDAY FOR THE 29th, THE PASTORS ROUNDTABLE.
>>WHEN WE PUT INFORMATION ABOUT THIS ONLINE, DO WE HAVE LINKS TO
THE PURPOSE BUILT COMMUNITY VIDEOS AND ALL BECAUSE THAT
REALLY HELPS EXPLAIN THE MODEL.>>WE’LL DO THAT.
>>I THINK THERE’S AN ABSTRACT AND I KNOW THERE’S A CONCEPTUAL,
BUT THERE’S SUCCESS WHERE THIS HAS HAPPENED AND IT SHOWS WHERE
THEY’VE COME FROM AND WHERE THEY ARE NOW AND I THINK IT WOULD
HELP PEOPLE TO MAYBE BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CONCEPT.
>>GREAT ADVICE.>>MRS. GRAVES.
>>I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT ANDRIA SAID BECAUSE THAT’S
A GREAT IDEA AND THAT DIDN’T JUST HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
IT’S GREAT AND NEW AND SHINY AND PRETTY RIGHT NOW, BUT IT TOOK
TEN YEARS FROM IDEA TO ALMOST COMPLETE PROJECT, AND SO I THINK
WE NEED TO BE VERY REAL RISK WITH THE TIMELINES THAT —
REALISTIC WITH THE TIMELINES THAT WE HAVE WORKING WITH
PEOPLE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.
>>VERY QUICKLY. CERTAINLY WHAT MR. RIDDICK SAID,
AS SOMEBODY WHO DID LIVE HERE, HE’S EDUCATED ME SO MUCH SINCE
I’VE BEEN ON COUNCIL ABOUT THE MISTAKES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN
THIS TOWN. I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP IN
MIND THAT WHAT WE’RE DOING RIGHT NOW ISN’T WORKING.
IT’S CRIME, IT’S EDUCATION, IT’S HEALTH, ALL OF IT IS RELATED TO
POVERTY, ALL OF IT IS RELATED TO — SO TO KEEP DOING WHAT
WE’RE DOING ISN’T GOING TO GET US ANYWHERE.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT FOR ALL OF US, THE ONE THING WE’VE ASKED
COUNCIL — OR I MEAN ASKED DOUG AND ASKED OUR ADMINISTRATION TO
DO IS BE BOLD, AND I THINK THIS IS BOLD.
THIS IS RESILIENT, IT’S WORKING WITH POVERTY THAT WE HAVE SET A
COMMISSION TO DO, AND FOR US TO DO ALL THAT WORK AND THEN NOT
CARRY THROUGH WITH A PURPOSEFUL MOVE, I THINK IS DOING US ALL A
DISSERVICE. SO I’M NOT CONCEDING FRANKLY
ANYTHING MR. RIDDICK IS SAYING, BUT I’M SAYING WE NEED TO KEEP
THAT IN NINE WHILE WE’RE BEING.>>WE’RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE
NEXT ITEM. THERE’S A LOT OF GREAT
DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK AND MORE TO COME ON THAT PIECE.
I’M GOING TO ASK DEPUTY CITY MANAGER MIKE GOLDSMITH TO COME
UP. I’M GOING TO PUT SOME PRESSURE
ON YOU, BUT I’M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO IT QUICK.
>>I’LL TALK FAST. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF
COUNCIL.>>THANKS FOR THAT.
>>EVERYBODY IS GETTING TIRED, SO WE’RE GOOD.
NO, THANKS A LOT. I WILL ROLL THROUGH THIS AS
QUICKLY AS I CAN. SO OUR PRESENTATION OVERVIEW,
WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ORIGINALLY THE ORGANIZATION WAS
TRYING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT, THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE, A
TIMELINE FOR PEOPLE SOFT, SOME OF THE BACK DROP, ENVIRONMENT,
POLICY AND SCOPE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND WHAT WE WERE
TRYING TO IMPLEMENT, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE KNEW ABOUT AS
WE WERE GOING INTO IT, SOME OF THE UNFORESEEN CHALLENGES
DISCOVERED AS WE GOT THROUGH THE PROJECT, WHAT WE’VE DONE TO
MITIGATE, AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, WHAT WAS LEARNED
AS A RESULT. JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHAT
THE PROJECT GOALS WERE. WHEN THE ORGANIZATION DECIDED TO
IMPLEMENT PEOPLE SOFT, THE IDEA WAS TO INCREASE ACCOUNTABILITY
IN ALL FACETS OF TIME AND ASSETS MANAGEMENT AND TRYING TO MAKE
SURE THAT PEOPLE WERE BEING ACCURATELY PAID AND THEY WERE
BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE HOURS BEING WORKED.
WE WANTED TO INCREASE THE ACCURACY OF EMPLOYEE
COMPENSATION. REALLY STANDARDIZE EVERYTHING
THAT WAS GOING ON. AS YOU’LL SEE LATER AS WE GOT
INTO THE PROJECT, WE FOUND SOME THINGS NOT BEING DONE THE SAME
WAY IN REFERENCE TO PAY, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERYBODY WAS FOLLOWING THE SAME PLAYBOOK AS THE PROJECT WAS
IMPLEMENTED. WE HAD SOME MANUAL PROCESSES WE
WANTED TO GET RID OF AND AUTOMATE THE PROCESS.
JUST A BIT OF A TIMELINE. 1995, PEOPLE SOFT WAS
COMPLEMENTED. BY THE — IMPLEMENTED.
BY THE TIME 2012 COMES AROUND, WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE SOFT
MODULES IN PLAUS. AT THAT TIME, THE ORGANIZATION
DECIDED TO IMPLEMENTING ASSETS MANAGEMENT.
IN MAY 2015 A CONTRACT WAS AWARDED TO A COMPANY WAS A RIDER
TO A SEATTLE CONTRACT. IT WAS A $1.13 MILLION SCOPE OF
WORK. MAJOR TASKS WERE TO CONFIGURE,
CUSTOMIZE, WRITE SOME INTERFACES, GENERATE REPORTS AND
DATA CONVERSION. IN OTHER WORDS, GETTING PEOPLE
SOFT TO BE MORE AUTOMATED. IN JUNE 2016, CONTRACT WAS
AMENDED TO MODIFY SCOPE AND THE OVERALL TIMELINE.
THE IDEA WAS TO ADD TOMORROW ADDITIONAL INTERFACES FOR PUBLIC
SAFETY AS WELL AS IMPLEMENT TIME CLOCKS.
2016, WE DECIDED TO STAGGER SOME STARTS TO THINGS.
ASSETS MANAGEMENT WENT LIVE AND THAT WENT FAIRLY WELL AS WE
IMPLEMENTED THAT, AND THEN IN DECEMBER OF 2016, TIME AND LABOR
IS TURNED ON AND THAT’S WHERE THE PROBLEM STARTS TO BEGIN.
A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE BACK DROP.
PEOPLE SOFT, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE TIMELINE, IMPLEMENTED IN
KNIFE, BY THE TIME WE GET — IN 1995, BY THE TIME WE GET 20
YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THROUGH ALL KINDS OF DECENTRALIZATION
PROCESSES, WE NOW HAVE DIVISIONS DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS WITH
THEIR PAYROLL. THINGS ARE NOT BEING DON’T SAME
THROUGHOUT THE CITY, SO AGAIN, THE IDEA WAS TO PULL ALL THOSE
INTO ONE UMBRELLA AND TRY TO MAKE SURE WE WERE DOING THINGS
IN A WAY THAT WAS UNIFORM AND EVERYBODY WAS GETTING PAID IN A
FAIR AND EQUITABLE MANNER. ONE PIECE WAS THE OVERTIME
LAWSUIT BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IN 2014, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ALLEGATION THAT OVERTIME COULD
NOT BE DOCUMENTED, OUR POLICE OFFICERS ENDED UP IN A LAWSUIT
WHICH WE ENDED UP SETTLING FOR A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WE ALSO HAD, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS, WE HAD SOME
PUSHBACK. YOU HAVE ANY CHANGE EFFORT IN AN
ORGANIZATION, YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF PUSHBACK AND SOME OF THAT
ENDED UP WITH SOME DECISIONS BEING MADE THAT ADDED LEVELS OF
COMPLEXITY TO THE PROJECT, SO AS WE GO THROUGH IT, PART OF THE
PROBLEMS THAT — PART OF THE ISSUE THAT CAUSED US TO HAVE
PROBLEMS. ALL RIGHT, CHALLENGES.
SEEN AND UNFORESEEN. GOING INTO THE PROJECT, IT WAS
KNOWN THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAD IN
TRYING TO IMPLEMENT IT. IT’S A BIG COMPLICATED PROJECT
AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIDE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE
ORGANIZATION KNEW IT WAS GOING TO GET INTO.
YOU’RE GOING TO GO TO PAYING FOR ACTUAL HOURS, YOU HAVE TO GO A
BIWEEKLY PAY. IF YOU DON’T DO THAT, THE
PAYCHECKS ARE DIFFERENT EVERY TIME YOU GET PAID AND THAT
BECOMES A BURDEN IN AND OF ITSELF ON THE EMPLOYEE.
THERE WERE SOME CULTURAL CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO HAVE HAPPENED.
WE WERE GOING TO ASK PEOPLE TO PUNCH A TIME CLOCK.
THAT HAD NOT HAPPENED IN NORFOLK BEFORE AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS
GOING TO ENGENDER SOME TRAINING ISSUES THAT WE HAD TO
DISCRIMINATE PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
— EDUCATE PEOPLE WILL WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WE KNEW WE HAD ON OVER-COMMUNICATE TO MAKE SURE
PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
ALSO, WITH ANY PROJECT, YOU RUN INTO IDEA OF KNOWN UNKNOWNS.
THE IMPLEMENTATION TAKES PLACE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING
TO HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED AS WE MOVE THROUGH.
THE UNFORESEEN CHALLENGES, THIS IS WHERE, NOT UNLIKE WHEN YOU’RE
TRYING TO REMODEL YOUR HOUSE, YOU’RE TEARING DOWN A WALL AND
YOU THINK YOU’RE GOING TO DO ONE THING AND YOU FIND TERMITES.
WHAT WE FOUND WAS NOT A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF HOW COMPLICATED
THE PAYROLL SYSTEM WAS AND WITHOUT HAVING MAPPED ALL THAT
OUT, AS WE GOT INTO IT, AS THE ORGANIZATION GOT INTO TRYING TO
IMPLEMENT THIS THING, THERE WERE LEVELS OF COMPLEXITY IN THERE
THAT WERE NOT ANTICIPATED THAT CAUSED PROBLEMS WITH THE
IMPLEMENTATION. A LOT OF WORK SCHEDULE AND
VARIATION. AS WE SAID BEFORE, 20 YEARS OF
PEOPLE SOFT, WE HAD ALMOST 400 DIFFERENT SCHEDULES IN THE CITY.
AND BY HAVING 400 DIFFERENT SCHEDULES, THAT MEANS THAT ALL
HAD TO BE PROGRAMMED INTO THE SYSTEM, WHICH AGAIN ADDED TO A
LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY, INTEGRATING ASSETS MANAGEMENT TIME AND MAYBE
BECAME TO BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY PLAYED OFF OF ONE ANOTHER
AND AS ONE HAD TO BE CHANGED, THE OTHER ONE HAD TO BE CHANGED
AND THAT MADE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED.
USER EXPERIENCE, WE REALLY, ORGANIZATIONALLY, DID NOT
UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE USERS TO USE
THE SYSTEM AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST PIECES WAS WHEN WE
TURNED THE SYSTEM ON, IT REALLY WASN’T READY TO GO YET AND WE
HAD NO BACKUP PLAN. ORGANIZATIONALLY, WE COULD NOT
DEVELOP AN ADEQUATE BACKUP SO THAT IF IT DIDN’T GO WELL, THERE
WAS NOTHING TO DROP BACK TO, AND THAT BECAME A BIG PROBLEM AS WE
ALL KNOW WHEN WE CAME THROUGH IT.
I WILL SAY THAT IN 2016, BEFORE IT WAS TURNED ON, A RISK
ASSESSMENT WAS DONE. BASED ON WHAT WAS SEEN AT THAT
TIME, BALANCING RISK IT WAS DECIDED TO TURN IT ON.
IT FELL LIKE BECAUSE WE HAD EMPLOYEES THAT CHANGED TO
BIWEEKLY AND WE KNEW THAT W-2s WERE COMING AND WE HAD TO HAVE
THEM RIGHT, THE RISK WAS TAKEN TO TURN THE SYSTEM ON AND GO
LIVE WITH IT AND IN RETROSPECT, WITHOUT THE BACKUP PLAN THAT,
CREATED OBVIOUS PROBLEMS WE ALL KNOW ABOUT.
DESPITE ALL THAT, I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT
EVERYBODY GOT PAID. EVEN WITH THE ISSUES THAT
HAPPENED, PAYCHECKS WERE ISSUED. THEY WEREN’T AS ACCURATE AS THEY
SHOULD HAVE BEEN. IN SOME CASES, WE OVERPAID AND
SOME CASES WE UNDERPAID. WHERE WE FOUND THE
UNDERPAYMENTS, WE QUICKLY TRIED TO CORRECT THAT THROUGH EITHER
FIXING IT IN THE SYSTEM OR BY CUTTING WHAT’S CALLED AN
OFF-CYCLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS WERE MADE WHOLE.
AND THAT LEADS TO SOME OF THE — WHAT WE TRY TO DO MITIGATING.
UNDERSTANDING WHAT HAD BEEN DONE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT PAYROLL
IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNBELIEVABLY IMPORTANT TO OUR
EMPLOYEES, SOMETHING THAT WE OWE THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE’RE
ACCURATE, A LOT OF THINGS WERE DONE TO TRY TO MITIGATE THESE
ISSUES. WE TALKED ABOUT THE OFF-CYCLE
CHECKS. PEOPLE LITERALLY WORKED AROUND
THE CLOCK TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE FOUND DISCREPANCIES THAT, WE
GOT PEOPLE PAID. A LOT OF EFFORT WENT INTO MAKING
SURE THAT FOLKS WERE MADE WHOLE AND THAT THEY DID NOT SUFFER
UNDULY BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WAS NOT WORKING.
ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENED WAS A HARDSHIP FUND WAS ESTABLISHED,
SO FOLKS WERE ABLE TO GO, IF THEY HAD NOT BEEN PAID CORRECTLY
AND WITH VERY LITTLE PAPERWORK TO FILL OUT, WE BASICALLY
EXTENDED THEM AN INTEREST-FREE LOAN THAT THEY COULD USE IN
ORDER TO GET THEM OVER THE HUMP WITH THE PAYROLL SYSTEM BEING
DONE. RESOURCES, WE ADDED TWO STAFF.
WE HAD CITY STAFF WORKING LOTS OF AND LOTS OF HOURS.
PART-TIME EMPLOYEES WERE BROUGHT IN TO HELP WITH AUDITS AND HELP
GET THINGS DONE TO WORK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEM GOT STABLE.
WE ALSO ASKED OUR DEPARTMENTS TO DO PAPER VALIDATION WHICH HELPED
OUT TREMENDOUSLY. IN OTHER WORDS, THE DEPARTMENT
WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT PAY TO MAKE SURE THEIR EMPLOYEES WERE
GETTING PAID AS CORRECTLY AS POSSIBLE AND WHEN THEY FOUND
PROBLEMS, IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE PAYROLL TEAM AND THE PAYROLL
TEAM ADDRESSED EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE PROBLEMS.
POLICY. I THINK WE’RE TALKING ABOUT
POLICY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS
DISCOVERED AND GOES BACK TO THE PROCESS MAPPING OF THIS, I
DON’T — PEOPLE DON’T REALIZE THAT EVERY POLICY WE’VE GOT,
WHEN IT COMES TO PAYROLL, HAS TO BE REDUCED TO A LINE OF CODE
THAT GOES INTO A PIECE OF SOFTWARE THAT GENERATES THE
CHECK, SO WHAT WE DID WHEN WE STARTED TO LOOK AT THIS THING IS
WE FOUND POLICIES THAT DIDN’T EXACTLY MATCH UP.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A POLICY THAT SAYS YOU GET A DAY’S WORTH
OF LEAVE EVERY MONTH. WELL, WHOSE DAY IS THAT?
IS IT A POLICE DEPARTMENT DAY, 12 HOURS, AN EMPLOYEE LIKE ME
DAY THAT IS EIGHT HOURS? SO THAT ALL HAD TO BE REWORKED
AND THAT’S PART OF THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH THIS.
MANAGEMENT WISE, THERE’S SOME ACCOUNTABILITY ISSUES THAT NEED
TO BE WORK THROUGH. WE’VE GONE TO A DIFFERENT SYSTEM
AND IT’S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY IS USING THE SYSTEM AS
IT WAS INTENDED. WE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND
EDUCATING OUR MANAGERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HOLD PEOPLE
ACCOUNTABLE. WE HAVE ONGOING WITH
DEPARTMENT-LEVEL LEAVE AND PAY AUDITS TO MAKE SURE WE’RE
GETTING ALL OF THAT DONE. WE’RE SENDING OUT PROACTIVE
COMPLIANCE MESSAGES. IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE SEE THAT
THERE ARE EMPLOYEES, AS WE RUN EXCEPTION REPORTS AND THERE ARE
EMPLOYEES THAT DON’T LOOK RIGHT WITH THEIR PAY OR EMPLOYEES THAT
HAVE MISSED PUNCHING IN AND OUT, OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS
SENDING THOSE OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO THE SUPERVISORS SO THEY CAN
MAKE IT RIGHT BEFORE THE PAY CYCLE ENDS AND GET PEOPLE
ACCURATELY PAID. SOME OF THE ONGOING WORK WE’RE
DOING, WE’RE WORKING WITH THE VENDOR TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM
GETS STABILIZED AND TALKING ABOUT A FOLLOW-ON CONTRACT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO WORK AND IF THERE’S
THINGS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE TO CHANGE, WE CAN DO THAT.
THIS GOES BACK TO THE CONTRACTING PIECE.
IT’S A RIDER, CAN NOT GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE NEEDED
TO CONTINUE TO WORK THE PROJECT. TO FIX THAT, A MEETING WAS HELD
WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY’S OFFICE TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT HOW WE
MIGHT DIFFERENTLY CONTRACT FOR BIG COMPLEX PROJECTS LIKE THIS,
TO MAKE SURE YEAR CONTRACTING IN SUCH A WAY THAT ALLOWS US THE
FLEXIBILITY THAT WHEN WE DEAN COUNTER PROBLEMS — WHEN WE DO
ENCOUNTER PROBLEMS, WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.
THIS IS WHAT WE LEARNED. YOU HAVE TO MAP THE SYSTEM
BEFORE WE START ANYTHING THIS COMPLICATED, MAKE SURE WE HAVE
THE APPROPRIATE CAPACITY FOR OUR PROJECT TEAM.
GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT’S OUTSIDE THE PROJECT DOING THE
MANAGEMENT PIECE. YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIDE ALL
THE STUFF THAT WE’RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN’T
HAPPEN AGAIN. A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKED REALLY
HARD TO GET THE SYSTEM STABILIZED AND I THINK IT’S
IMPORTANT THAT WE DON’T LOSE SIGHT OF THAT AND THANK THEM FOR
ALL THE EFFORT THEY PUT IN HERE.>>BEFORE YOU GO, MR. MANAGER,
MS. GRAVES AND MS. McCLELLAN.>>YOU SAID THAT THE PAYROLL AND
GETTING FOLKS THEIR CHECKS WAS UNBELIEVABLY IMPORTANT.
I WOULD GO WITH VITAL AND CRITICALLY.
>>ABSOLUTELY.>>THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I HAVE
IS THAT WHEN WE DO THOSE KINDS OF NEW SYSTEM CHANGES AND THINGS
LIKE THAT AND I GUESS THERE WAS — I’M ASSUMING THERE WAS AN
RFP OR SOMETHING OR ANOTHER, DID WE CHECK THE REFERENCES OF
ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAD EVER USED THIS SYSTEM BEFORE TO FIND OUT
WHAT THEY HAD AS ISSUES OR IF THEY ABSOLUTELY HATED IT AND
WOULD NEVER USE IT AGAIN IF THEY HAD A CHOICE?
DID WE DO ANY OF THAT? TOO WE DO THAT?
>>WE CERTAINLY DO. KEEP IN MIND, THIS GOES BACK —
YOU SAW THE SLIDE HOW THE YEARS GO BACK.
UNFORTUNATELY, MIKE AND I HAVE WORKED ON IT MORE HERE, SO A LOT
OF ISSUE WAS THE COMPLEXITY ALREADY IN PLACE AND HOW IT
CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. SO EVEN IF SOMEBODY TOLD YOU
THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM AND IT WORKS EXTREMELY WELL, THEIR
SITUATION WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM OURS, PART OF THE LESSON WE
LEARN HERE.>>THEN THE LAST QUESTION, WHEN
YOU TALK ABOUT DAYS OF LEVER — LEAVE VERSUS HOURS, ISN’T THAT A
LEAVE TIME BASED ON HOURS AND YEARS OF SERVICE?
>>IT IS GIVEN IN HOURS BASED ON YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF STUFF LIKE SICK LEAVE, IT STAYS CONSTANT NO
MATTER HOW MANY YEARS YOU’RE HERE.
THE PROBLEM IS THE POLICY STATE AND DAY OF LEAVE AND IT NEEDS TO
BE DEFINED BY A NUMBER OF HOURS.>>EIGHT HOURS UP TO FIVE YEARS
AND SO FORTH? OKAY.
>>TOMMY.>>YOU’RE STILL WORKING ON THIS
AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE, WE’VE ADDED ADMINISTRATIVE WORK
TO MANAGERS THAT DIDN’T EXIST BEFORE AND I GUESS THE QUESTION
THAT I WOULD NEED YOU TO ANSWER FOR ME, BUT AS YOU CONTINUE TO
WORK THROUGH IT, IS IT NECESSARY IN ALL INSTANCES AND ALL
DEPARTMENTS TO CREATE THAT EXTRA WORK OR MAYBE FOR SOME INSTANCES
AND CIRCUMSTANCES, IT’S NOT? MAYBE THEY CONTINUE TO GO
THROUGH AND LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IS IT REALLY WORTHWHILE TO ADD
X-AMOUNT OF HOURS OF WORK TO THE MANAGER OR THE PARTICULAR
EMPLOYEES WORKING UNDER THEM.>>WE’LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT ALL
OF THAT AS WE GET THE SYSTEM STABLE AND LOOK TO IMPROVE IT,
YES, SIR.>>THANK YOU FOR WORKING TO GET
IT STRAIGHT.>>IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT.
>>MS. GRAVES RAISED THIS EARLIER AND THE MAYOR AND I
TALKED EARLIER IN THE WEEK OR MAYBE LAST WEEK AND JUST ABOUT
EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL MENTIONED THIS, AND THERE IS NOTHING MORE
IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THE EMPLOYEES THAN
PAYING THEM ACCURATELY, AND WE HAVE NOT HONORED THAT FOR A
VARIETY OF REASONS, AND I BELIEVE IT IS THE WISH OF
THIS — OR THE DESIRE OF THIS COUNCIL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, BUT
TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT IN A WAY THAT’S SOMEWHAT MEANINGFUL,
WHICH WE HAVE A JULY 3rd FALLING BEFORE JULY 4th AND IT’S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE EMPLOYEES JULY
3rd OFF AND MAKE THAT A FOUR-DAY HOLIDAY.
>>THANK YOU.>>IT WASN’T AS EXCITING AS —
[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]>>OKAY, LET’S HEAR IT!
[ APPLAUSE ]>>ALL RIGHT.
>>BERNARD I THINK IS HAVING TO HELP US DO THAT.
>>WITH THAT SAID, WE’RE GOING TO MOVE QUICKLY AND THE MAIN
HOTEL AND THE EXCHANGE CONFERENCE CENTER, IT OPENED UP
THIS SPRING AND BRUCE THOMPSON IS IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US AND
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIS PRESENCE AND JARED CHALK IS GOING TO
STAND UP AND WORK WITH GREG PATRICK TO DO A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE, JARED IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND REALLY
WHAT WE’VE SEEN, SOME OF THE REALLY EARLY IMPACTS THAT ARE
EXCITING AND JUST EXACTLY WHAT WE ALL HOPED IT WOULD BE, A
TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT FOR DOWNTOWN, AND THEN GREG PATRICK
IS GOING TO JUMP UP AND ACTUALLY WALK YOU THROUGH THE FINAL —
WHAT ARE VIRTUALLY THE FINAL NUMBERS.
WE HAVE THE PUNCH LIST ITEMS TO GO THROUGH, BUT WE WANT YOU ALL
AND THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE FINAL COSTS.
>>SO I’M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THIS QUICK AND I’LL HAND OVER TO
GREG WHO’S GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE FINANCIAL SIDE.
SO WE’RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A STATUS OF THE HOTEL, CONFERENCE
CENTER, PARKING GARAGE AND FIRST TWO TO THREE MONTHS OF SOME OF
THE MARKET STUDIES AND IMPACT WE’VE SEEN.
I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THE HISTORY.
THIS PROJECT GOES BACK TO 2005. TWO PRIOR DEVELOPERS AND THEN IN
2013, WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH GOLD KEY AND WE
RECENTLY OPENED AT THE END OF MARCH WITH A GRAND OPENING
CELEBRATION AND WE’RE STILL WORKING ON FINAL PUNCH LIST
ITEMS IN THE PARKING GARAGE AND A FEW THINGS IN THE CONFERENCE
CENTER, BUT IT’S SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE.
SO THE MAIN AND THE EXCHANGE. 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF CONFERENCE
SPACE, 39 MEETING ROOMS, THE LARGEST CONFERENCE SPACE IN
NORFOLK, AND THE LARGEST BALLROOM IN VIRGINIA AT A LITTLE
OVER 18,000 SQUARE FEET. 300 KEY HOTEL, 11 LUXURY SUITES,
PRESIDENTIAL SUITE, 358 PARKING SPACES, THREE FULL SERVICE
RESTAURANTS, THE ROOFTOP BEER GARDEN, GRAIN, VARIA, AND SECOND
LEVEL, ITALIAN AND THE FIRST LEVEL IS SALTINE SEA FORWARD AND
THERE’S ALSO ANOTHER NOT FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANT, THAT IS
LIKE A COFFEE SHOP. THE NEXT SLIDE.
OPENED MARCH 30th, GREAT EVENT. GOVERNOR CAME TO TOWN.
THE ARTS WEEKEND RAISED 5 18$,000 FOR THE ARTS, AND THE —
$581,000 FOR THE ARTS. AND THE SAME WEEKEND ON SUNDAY,
650 CHILDREN FROM NORFOLK WHO BENEFIT FROM LOCAL CHARITY
ORGANIZATIONS WERE INVITED TO COME DOWN AND TOUR THE HOTEL AND
THEY GOT TO SEE THE CIRQUE PRODUCTION FOR FREE THAT
AFTERNOON. QUICKLY THE ECONOMIC IMPACT,
WE’RE THREE MONTHS INTO THIS, BUT SINCE THE MAIN OPENED,
THERE’S BEEN 7,159 ADDITIONAL ROOM NIGHTS IN THE CON SET.
THAT’S BASICALLY THE SHERATON, THE MARRIOTT, THE RENAISSANCE
AND HOTELS THAT COMPETE LOCALLY WITH THE MAIN.
THERE’S 118,000 GROUP NIGHTS CONFIRMED OR IN NEGOTIATIONS TO
STAY AT THE MAIN. 76% OF THESE ARE NEW TO NORFOLK
OR ARE FIVE YEARS PRIOR, SO THEY MAY HAVE BEEN HERE TEN YEARS
AGO, BUT THEY LEFT THE MARKET AND NOW THEY’RE BACK.
HERE’S A LIST OF SOME OF THE NOTABLE GROUPS.
WITH THE MAIN NOW OPEN, THE MARKET IN APRIL 17 COMPARED TO
APRIL 16 GREW 6%, SO THAT’S OVER 2500 ADDITIONAL ROOM NIGHTS IN
NORFOLK AND THAT’S NOT JUST THE MAIN, BUT OTHER HOTELS.
IN MAY, 10.7% OF AN INCREASE. THE COMP SET, THE AVERAGE DAILY
RATE, THE ADR, IS UP 2.3 POINTS, SO WE’RE HAVING MORE PEOPLE COME
AND IT’S DRIVING DEMAND FOR RATES TO BE INCREASED.
SO SOME OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS, WE’RE ONLY TWO TO THREE MONTHS
INTO THIS, SO IT’S PROJECTED UPWARDS.
THE MAIN IS SHOWN TO BE A MARKET MAKER, NOT A MARKET TAKER.
IT’S NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE COMP SET.
IT’S DRIVING ADDITIONAL TOURISM TO DOWNTOWN, DIVERSIFYING THE
DOWNTOWN ECONOMY, AND IT’S SORT OF VALIDATING THE DECISIONS THAT
WERE MADE IN THE EARLIER 2000s. IT’S VALIDATING THE CONSULTANT’S
REPORT, SO SO FAR, THINGS ARE LOOKING UP AND WITH THAT, I’M
GOING TO PASS OVER TO GREG WHO’S GOING TO RUN THROUGH THOSE
FINANCIALS.>>THANK YOU, JARED.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY. MY PART OF THE PRESENTATION
WON’T BE QUITE AS GLAMOROUS AS WHAT JARED JUST PRESENTED.
WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NUMBERS AND KIND OF REVIEW THE
COST OF THE PROJECT. SO THIS PRESENTATION WILL COVER
AN OVERVIEW AND HISTORY OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FUNDING, A
REVIEW OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER AND PARKING GARAGE CONSTRUCTION
COSTS, INCLUDING BUDGET TO ACTUAL COST, AND OTHER RELATED
COSTS. A REVIEW OF THE HOTEL GRANTS AND
THEN FINALLY A SUMMARY OF THE TOTAL PUBLIC INVESTMENT TO DATE
IN THE PROJECT. SO FIRST, A COUPLE OF KEY TAKE
BECAUSE. THE CONFERENCE CENTER AND HOTEL
GRANT EXPENSES WILL BE FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE PUBLIC
AMENITIES FUND. PARKING GARAGE COSTS WILL BE
SUPPORTED BY USER FEES GENERATED FROM THE PARKING SYSTEM.
FINAL INSPECTIONS OF THE FACILITY IS UNDERWAY AND ANY
ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT RESULT FROM THE INSPECTIONS ARE NOT
INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION AND FINALLY, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT BUDGET DID NOT HAVE ANY CONTINGENCY.
THIS SLIDE OUTLINES THE CAPITAL FUNDS APPROPRIATED FOR THE
PROJECT. THIS PROJECT WAS INITIALLY
FUNDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2005 CIP.
THAT’S 13 YEARS AGO. FUNDING WAS PROVIDED EACH YEAR
IN THE CIP FROM FISCAL YEAR 2005 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2008.
A TOTAL OF ABOUT 88 MILLION WAS APPROPRIATED FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER AND PARKING GARAGE.
OVER THE LAST 13 YEARS, MULTIPLE ITERATIONS OF THE PROJECT WILL
CONTEMPLATED WITH NUMEROUS RENDERINGS AND DEVELOPERS TAMPED
TO IT. PRIOR TO THE CITY PARTNERING
WITH GOLD KEY. BY THE TIME THE CITY AND GOLD
KEY SIGNED THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN 2013,
MORE THAN 16 MILLION HAD BEEN SPEND ON SITE PREP.
THESE COSTS INCLUDED LAND ACQUISITION, DEMOLITION,
ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER FEES, STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS, AND
WHAT WAS LEFT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 72 MILLION AVAILABLE
FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WHEN THE MDA WAS SIGNED WITH
GOLD KEY PHR.>>AND MDA IS MASTER DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT.>>YES.
THE FIRST TABLE IN THE SLIDE IS THE BUDGET AND PROJECTED ACTUAL
EXPENSES FOR THE CONFERENCE CENTER AND PARKING GARAGE
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. THE PROJECT BUDGET WAS
$72,113,000 AND THE PROJECTED ACTUAL COST IS $72,143,000.
THIS PUTS US OVER BUDGET BY ABOUT $30,000.
HOWEVER, THE PROJECTED ACTUAL COST IS STILL LESS THAN THE
AMOUNT COUNCIL APPROPRIATED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
THE ROUGHLY — THE SECOND TABLE IN THIS SLIDE DETAILS OTHER
EXPENSES RELATED TO THE PROJECT. ROUGHLY 2. — 4.2 MILLION IN
RELATED SITE WORK AND THIS INCLUDES WORK OUTSIDE THE
FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING SUCH AS SIDEWALKS, CURB AND GUTTER,
ENTRY/EXIT APRONS, LIGHTING, STRAIGHT SCAPES — STREETSCAPES,
MAJOR UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE WORK, STREET WORK AND PAVING AND
CROSSWALKS. THESE EXPENSES ARE MORE SIMILAR
TO THE PREDEVELOPMENT WORK DETAILED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE
THAN THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT ITSELF.
HOWEVER, SINCE THE EXPENSES OCCURRED AFTER WE SIGNED THE
MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY’RE OUTLINED IN THIS
SECTION. ALSO INCLUDED IN THE TABLE ARE
COSTS RELATED TO CONFERENCE CENTER EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY.
THESE CITY ASSETS WERE ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR PURCHASE
THROUGH OUR EQUIPMENT PURCHASE PROGRAM.
THE TECHNOLOGY EXPENSES INCLUDE AUDIO-VIDEO INFRASTRUCTURE,
PROJECTORS, PROJECTION SCREENS, BACKGROUND MUSIC SYSTEMS,
SECURITY CAMERAS, HIGH SPEED INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE, AND
DIGITAL SIGNAGE. NEXT WE HAVE THE HOTEL GRANTS.
WITH THE 2013 MDA OUTLINED HOTEL GRANTS TO THE DEVELOPER
INCLUDING A $7.5 MILLION GRANT TO REDUCE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
THIS GRANT WAS USED TO PAY THE FIRST 7.5 MILLION OF HARD
CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THE HOTEL.
IT’S WORTH NOTING THAT THAT GRANT WAS ACTUALLY FIRST
AUTHORIZED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2007 MDA WITH A PREVIOUS
DEVELOPER. ALSO THERE WAS A $2.5 MILLION
GRANT FOR — TO PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT WOULD
OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE HOTEL.
SO THESE GRANTS WERE DESIGNED TO INDUCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
HOTEL, OF A QUALITY COMPARABLE TO THE CONFERENCE CENTER.
PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE INTENT OF THE PREPARATION IS TO
OUTLINE PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN THE PROJECT TO DATE, THE CITY HAS
ALSO COMMITTED TO PERFORMANCE-BASED GRANTS AS PART
OF THE 2013 MDA. THESE GRANTS ARE TIED TO THE
PERFORMANCE OF THE HOTEL. THE PROJECT QUALIFIES FOR THE
COMMONWEALTH TOURISM DEVELOPMENT FINANCE PROGRAM, OR TDFP,
BECAUSE THE STATE DETERMINED THE MAIN WOULD SUPPORT TOURISM.
THE TDFP PROGRAM LEVERAGES STATE AND CITY SALES TAX RECEIPTS
GENERATED BY THE HOTEL ALONG WITH A MATCHING CONTRIBUTION
FROM THE DEVELOPER TO SUPPORT A PORTION OF THE HOTEL FINANCING
PACKAGE. THE CITY’S TOTAL CONTRIBUTION IS
PROJECTED TO BE $2.4 MILLION PLUS ANY INTEREST THAT ACCRUES
ON THE FINANCING. THIS GRANT WILL BE PAID OVER
SEVERAL YEARS. THE CITY ALSO COMMITTED TO A
PERFORMANCE-BASED GRANT TOTALLY A MAXIMUM OF $750,000 OVER TEN
YEARS.>>HOW MUCH IS YOUR BUDGET
GUIDE? I’M NOT —
>>THE REPAYMENT IS BASED ON HOW WELL THE PROJECT PER FORMS.
THE MORE MONEY THE HOTEL GENERATES, THE QUICKER IT WILL
BE ROW PAID.>>OKAY, GOT IT.
>>FINALLY, THIS SLIDE OUTLINES THE TOTAL PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN
THE PROJECT. PREDEVELOPMENT COSTS OF 16
HUNDRED, CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF 72 MILLION, OTHER COSTS OF
7 MILLION AND HOT TELL GRANT COST OF 10 MILLION COMBINE FOR A
TOTAL COST OF 110 MILLION. KEEP IN MIND THIS DOESN’T
INCLUDE THE PERFORMANCE BASED GRANTS BECAUSE THIS IS COSTS TO
DATE.>>MR. MANAGER.
>>JUST WANTED YOU TO –>>OH, MR. SMIGIEL.
>>YOU’RE NOT GETTING AWAY THAT EASY.
JUST TWO QUESTIONS. I’M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT
PARKING — THIS DECISION TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PARKING
SPOTS WAS A BAD DECISION. FOR THOSE ON COUNCIL, THERE WAS
ORIGINALLY A MUCH LARGER PARKING GARAGE AND THEY CAME BACK AND
SCALED IT DOWN AND I’M HEARING THAT THERE’S MAJOR PARKING
ISSUES US MAINLY BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES HAD NOWHERE TO PARK
AND I THINK THAT’S BEING WORKED OUT OR BEEN WORKED OUT, BUT
THERE’S STILL NO PLACE TO PARK AND THE PARKING GARAGE IS NOW
COMPLETELY AT CAPACITY AND VERY LARD TO FIND PARKING SPOTS
THERE. I NEVER KNEW WE — BY THE WAY, I
NEVER THOUGHT WE’D EVER HAVE PARKING ISSUES IN THE CITY OF
NORFOLK BECAUSE WHEN I STARTED ON COUNCIL, THE PARKING
SITUATION WAS –>>DIRE.
>>AS FAR AS WE HAD TOO MANY SPOTS.
>>I THINK YOU HIT IT. SO PARKING IS A CHALLENGE
BETWEEN HERE AND THE MAIN, REALLY BETWEEN HERE AND
NAUTICUS, AND WHAT’S HAPPENED IS WE’VE GOT VIRTUALLY 3,000 NEW
PEOPLE BETWEEN HERE AND THERE, BETWEEN WHAT’S HAPPENING AT THE
MAIN, JOHN AND HIS FOLKS MOVING INTO THE DNC PROGRAM, NORFOLK
SOUTHERN PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE ON US, SO YEAH, WE HAVE A
PARKING CHALLENGE AND WYNTER AND MARTIN AND HIS CROWD ARE TRYING
TO THINK BUT THE LOGISTICS OF HOW WE SHUFFLE THAT AROUND, SO
WE’LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH PROBABLY SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON
HOW TO RESOLVE THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM.
>>THE SECOND THING IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
THAT THE CITY OF NORFOLK INVESTED IN THIS, I HOPE THAT
THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THE CITY OF NORFOLK, ARE NOT BEING CHARGED
ON ANY FEES WHEN THEY USE THE CONFERENCE.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO BUY FOOD AND STUFF, BUT THERE SHOULD BE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS CONFERENCE CENTER ON SOME — I
DON’T KNOW IF THAT WAS WORKED INTO THE CONTRACT —
>>I’LL BE SURPRISED IF IT WAS.>>BUT IF IT’S USED ON DAYS THAT
ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, BEING USED FOR CONFERENCES OBVIOUSLY OR
BRINGING IN REVENUE, BUT I THINK THERE’S AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU
KNOW, FOR THAT WHERE IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO USE THE — WHAT’S THE
ROOM OF EXCELLENCY FOR PAUL FRAIM, THAT ROOM?
TO DO A CONFERENCE OR SOMETHING, THAT THERE’S EITHER A
DRAMATICALLY REDUCED FEE OR EVEN IF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WANTS
TO DO SOMETHING THERE, THAT THERE SHOULD BE OPPORTUNITIES TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS SPENT
ON THIS, THE CONFERENCE CENTER SIDE.
>>I’LL LOOK IN TO SEE WHAT WAS SET UP.
>>ALL RIGHT, MR. THOMAS.>>A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH
REGARD TO THE PARKING GARAGE. A FEW YEARS BACK, WE ADDED
CAMERAS, I THINK TO ALL THE PUBLIC PARKING GARAGES DOWNTOWN,
ADDED SIGNS SAYING CAMERAS WERE IN THE GARAGE AND THAT RUSED THE
NUMBER OF VEHICLE — REDUCED THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE BREAK-INS.
I ASKED THE QUESTION AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE ARE ADDING
CAMERAS TO THIS GARAGE?>>THAT’S MY UNDERSTANDING.
>>OKAY, GOOD. RIGHT NOW, TONIGHT, THERE’S A
SIGN OUT IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE THAT SAYS HOTEL PARKING ONLY,
BUT THIS IS A PUBLIC GARAGE.>>AND PART OF THIS IS WE’RE
WORKING THROUGH THE LOGISTICS. IT’S JUST WHAT COUNCILMAN
SMIGIEL SAID, WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING TO HANDLE WHAT
WE’VE GOT, SO SOME OF THE LOGISTICS OF HOW WE’RE SHUFFLING
PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE HOTEL, SO WE MADE THE DECISION THAT THE
MAIN WILL CONTROL THAT GARAGE RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE CAN GET IT
FIGURED OUT AND BERNARD IS HELPING US AND WE’LL GET IT
FIGURED OUT, WE THINK, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
>>THE LAST THING IS THERE’S A MONUMENT SIGN OUT THERE
ADVERTISING THE GARAGE FOR THE MAIN AND IT DOESN’T SAY CITY OF
NORFOLK ANYWHERE ON IT. I’LL PIGGYBACK ON TOMMY, WE PAID
A LOT OF POINT FOR IT AND IF IT ENDS UP BEING PUBLIC PARKING, IT
NEEDS TO SAY SOMETHING.>>BUT ISN’T THAT GARAGE — IS
THAT A PAY-TO-PARK GARAGE?>>MM-HMM.
>>IT IS PAY-TO-PARK GARAGE? OKAY.
>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>RELATED FOR A FUTURE DATE,
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON PARKING SOMETIME
SOON?>>WE WILL, PROBABLY AFTER THE
RECESS.>>THIS IS A PINCH POINT
OBVIOUSLY, AND HOW DO WE USE TECHNOLOGY, HOW DO WE GUIDE
PEOPLE TO AVAILABLE PARKING. WHENEVER I GO TO THE MAIN, I
PARK AT THE TOWN POINT GARAGE.>>DON’T BOTHER.
>>BUT IT’S EASY, NOT A PROBLEM TO DO IT.
>>WE’LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN.>>THANK YOU.
>>AND WE’D LIKE TO TELL YOU, IF YOU’VE BEEN ANYWHERE WITHIN
SIGHT OF THE MAIN, YOU HAVE SEEN MR. THOMPSON.
I THINK HE IS 24 HOURS A DAY IN THAT BUILDING.
THERE’S NOT A MORE PASSIONATE ADVOCATE FOR DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW,
AND DESPITE SOME OF THE PARKING LOGISTICS AND ALL THAT KIND OF
THING, THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIONAL IMPACT OF THE
PROJECT IS REAL.>>BRUCE, DID YOU WANT TO SAY
GOOD EVENING OR ANYTHING BEFORE WE MOVE ON?
>>I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU ALL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY AND ONE OF THE MOST GRATIFYING, ENJOYABLE PROJECTS
THAT I’VE EVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON, AND WITH
ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT COME OUT OF THIS,
IT’S EVEN PASSED MY EXPECTATIONS.
THE MARKET ACCEPTANCE, THE WAY THE COMMUNITY AND DOWNTOWN FOLKS
HAVE WORKED THERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND EMBRACED US BEYOND THE
DOORS AND WE ARE WIDELY KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE MID-ATLANTIC NOW
AS THE PREMIER DESTINATION AND I LOOK FOR BIGGER AND PERCENT
THINGS AND FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, I THANK THE CITY FOR
ALLOWING ME TO BE A PART OF THE PROJECT.
>>MR. MANAGER.>>BERNARD HAS A CLOSED ITEM.
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