– [Announcer] Dogumentary TV, producing the best breed
documentaries on YouTube. (dog barking) (slow jazzy music) – My name is Gerald Antoine,
I’m from Jackson, Mississippi. I’ve been living in
California since 1994 now, ever since I got out of college. And I always wanted an animal. And my mom always told
me I couldn’t have a dog because she had enough
two-legged dogs in the house. So when I decided to get on
my own and have place to live, I decided I wanted to get an animal and my first dog was a Doberman. I wanted something with size, but I didn’t want nothing
that shed a lot of hair. I wanted something that
was low maintenance. And I started doing my
research about the Doberman and it was the ideal pet. They’re part Greyhound,
I used to like to run, and they’re very athletic. I didn’t start with the
European Doberman at first. It was a trial and error thing, I didn’t know what I
was exactly looking for. So I started with one dog that
I got from a local breeder, paid minimal amount,
and the dog didn’t work. I wanted something to be active, he wanted to be a lap dog
and I didn’t need a Labrador. So I gave him to somebody
who had a better use for him ’cause I wanted something
that had some activity to him. So I went to another breeder
in the Southern California area and I was impressed with the size, the size and the darkness. The dog was part Euro, part American. Didn’t know any better to
check back two more generations versus just looking at the sire only. You have to look at both
the sire and the dam and then that pedigree. He was about 32 inches to
the whither, 100 pounds, but he had no drive. But he was pretty. And so I donated him, I
gave him to another person who had a better use for him. That dog is now in Arizona. Then I started doing more
research, I said I’m not gonna go for the banana in the
tail pipe twice, alright? So I did more research, and it seemed like some of the best breeders
were in Eastern Europe. So I did my research. My first dog, of course,
Alonzo, the big chocolate male, I made a choice, I said
you know I did a lot of black and tans with no luck. So I wanted to do something different ’cause I always liked
the chocolate Labrador, let me get a chocolate Doberman, ’cause he’s a little bit darker than most. My breeder, her name is
Andrea, Andrea out of Hungary. So it’s King of Darkness,
where I got Alonzo from, she was very interactive in 2010. Where versus going off of pictures, they would post a video. So now I could see live video, the maturation process,
when they’re eating, when they’re playing, who’s the bully. When she throws a bottle
with rocks inside of them, who’s jumping away and who’s going to it. And I saw them bring her dog’s pedigree and it had all these IPO2s, IPO3s. My firs trainer was Lewis
Williams of Black Mass, great trainer. He introduced me to the
things that you had to do to stimualte the dog, you know,
the ball work, the rag work. Throwing things out at
him, water, you know, shooting out water bottles,
distractions, to see the dog’s temperament so I learned
how to pick out dogs. At that point I said, you know what? I still like the black and tans. Alonzo was by that time three years old, I had already put and IPO1 on him. He’s got a CGC, a CGCA um, he’s got a BH and he recently completed
his Bravet in ring sport. And he’s almost seven in October. So I said, I still wanted a black and tan, you know, and I got Brodey. The breeder was not as
communicative on the internet, you emailed her, she
emailed you back four days, you send the money, you
don’t know if it went to her or she took it and
dashed so that’s the risk you take when you’re buying
dogs and animals over seas unless you’ve got a great rapport. Needless to say, fastforward,
Brodey was a great pet, Alonzo took him out on
his wings, how to show him how to be an alpha male. Right now we’re working on an IPO3. All his health tests came
back, hips are great. He’s three years old, still working. But the point of it was
that I had to get… The reason why I got
European Dobermans versus the American breed is because
for the past 30, 40 years the American Doberman has
become watered down pets where the drive has been
taken away, you know. Sweet temperament but,
again, they’re working dogs. So I noticed that there are
very, very tangible differences between the two. Number one, the size is different. The bone structure is different. The European line has
bigger bone structure. They have versus tan markings,
they’re called mahogany. Alonzo’s marks you can’t
really even see them because he’s almost as
dark as his markings are. And I like the size of their head and they have boxy muzzles. With all the tangibles I was
also wanting the intangible. The temperament, the willingness to work. That part Greyhound so they
never really walked no where, they run everywhere. They never said Doberman
walk unless you’re walking with them. So with these things I knew
that in order if I wanted to be into a sport where my second trainer, Albin Waylos, great trainer here in L.A., he told me that there are certain things that you have to focus on,
some of the dog’s strengths, some of the dog’s weaknesses. They both love me
unconditionally and I can’t even go to the restroom
if they’re in the house. But the one thing that I also
revered about the Doberman as far as the breed and the breeders is the purposefully intent health testings because the Doberman,
every canine species, every dog species, has a genetic issue. The Doberman has a, they’re
known for having VWD, DCM, DMC1 and you have to get annual tests to make sure your dog is at
the health that he needs to be in order to have a longevity life. The lifespan is probably 10 to 12 years, if I get 12 years out of
my dogs I’m doing good. In regards to the size,
the American standard is, if I’m not mistaken, for a male is at 29, 28 inches to the wither. Well, the European line, my
dog is at about 29 and 1/2. And I deliberately don’t
want to oversize dogs because an oversize dog ends
up having health issues, hip issues, they tend to
have probably health issues. A good height for me is 29 and 1/2 inches, that’s my max I like. And I like them to be no
more than 90, 91 pounds. I want to see the last two ribs, a V-shape and that shows
me that he’s in good shape as far as symmetry. I feed him, after the year
I’ll only feed him probably one big meal a day at the end of the day between four and five o’clock, no need to feed them twice a
day if they’re not training. When I was a police officer back in uh, in my later, later, earlier years, a lot of the guys, still
now, they deal with Malinois and Sables. They work real hard. But it’s hard to find a pretty one. A couple of guys now, an
officer in Menlow Park that I talked to, he’s got
a Doberman as a working dog, he’s in the K9 unit and
so now they’re becoming more popular. I would say that I’m not a trailblazer but I’m an avid fan, I love the breed. You ask me anything about
particular bloodlines, 90% of the time I could tell you, depending on what you’re looking for, if it’s a good one or not. Some breeders here in
the United States who are 100% European breeders,
they tend to breed more for the look if their dogs don’t
have any working titles and extensive screening. A lot of people get dead spin on the fact that they’re selling point
is well, this dog right here is the great grandson
of Maxim di Altobello, which is a great dog. But that’s three generations,
two or three generations back. I say “Well, my great, great
grandfather was a Frenchman, “I don’t look like him”. So we can’t go by what my
great, great grandfather, we go by what the parents
are, what they look like. That’s why when I went,
that’s why when people ask me how to pick out puppies I
say “Go see both parents” just don’t get caught up on
seeing what the pop look like. Cause I’ve seen a lot of
times where the puppies actually come out looking like the mom. – Hey, this is Khary Lee, I’m
out here again checking out the difference between the
Europeans and the Americans. The difference I’m seeing
that I noticed between the American and the
European Dobbies is about eight to ten pounds and
that eight to ten pounds makes a big difference
when it’s coming at you about 20-25 miles an hour. Their strength is a little more intense. Their bite is almost
the same but pretty much the dog’s structure is different. The European’s bone structure
is a lot more heavier, a lot more man-stopping weight
than the American Dobermans. He’s done a very good
job with the foundation and the training that
the dog’s have received from Brodey with the
Schutzhund and the IPO and Alonzo with the French Ring. They both grabbed superior
foundational training. – If a person is into the sport, whether it’s Mondio, French Ring, PSA, IPO, or personal protection,
they have to be able to look for dogs that have
workability, see both parents work, because it’s in their DNA. Either a dog gonna have it
or he ain’t gonna have it. He either gonna ball or fall. One or the other, right? So, when you’re looking for a working dog, look at the working, make
sure they have pedigree that goes back two generations at least. And make sure they have
some kind of working titles. Or demonstration of working titles. Or demonstrations of even working. But we’re in America and
it’s all about image first. It’s all about what the dog looks like. A lot of people buy
animals off of pictures. You take the right picture
at the right angle, that dog gonna look big. He’s gonna look great. They got photoshop for a reason. Alonzo and Brodey has
had litters in the past. And what I try to tell people is, if you’re looking for a
dog to be a house dog, somebody that’d be a great
pet who’s going to be with you by your side, this dog may not be for you. The number one complaints
with Brodey and Alonzo’s off-springs are these dogs
are tearing up my yard, they biting everything, they want to run and play all the time. I say “That’s what they were bred for”. So understand what you get. And these particular
European working bloodlines deserve households with active parents. It’s just, you gotta do it. Or you’re going to do
the dog a disservice. At the end of the day, my
animals, for me itself, like I said, again,
for me this is a hobby. They keep me very active
outdoors, I go hiking with them. I go bike riding with
them, they keep me active and I get more out of it
than I would if I was to, in my previous hobby, collect cars. My dogs will always love
me no matter what type of day it was, rainy,
sunshine, bad day, broke day, rich day, payday. And so, with that being
said, you get as much out as you put in. But in regards for me, for
me, I like the 100% working European line, health tested,
and my slogan always will be “If you don’t have any working
line, you wasting your time”.


  • My latest Doberman puppy's dame is Greek. He is very different from his aunt who is 100% American. He is bigger and more assertive.

  • This guy is no Animal Lover. He wants a tool, a Facebook platform. He is the epitome of a snob, chump Animal owner. Shame on him and this channel for putting forward such an arrogant owner.

  • One thing THIS DOG IS NOT FOR PEOPLE THAT JUST WANNA TAKE A PICTURE AND SIT IN A COUCH. This dog runs alot if your a lazy fatass dont get this dog

  • The Epic Gamer Far Cry lover and Animal lover says:

    That black and tan male….. Brodey…. just let me get my Doberman's certificate with parents and grandparents…………….Oh. My. God. Brodey's the grandfather of Skye! But Skye is black and tan has floppy ears and long tail.

  • Xander Valltessa says:

    Looks are pointless, working ability is everything. This guy is obsessed with looks. He clearly is a beginner amateur in the dog world. It’s ok we all start out somewhere. Those that can’t handle Police K9 or Personal protection training do cute sports like IPO or French Ring etc. Real dogs do work. Fake dogs do sport. Like the guy said “it’s just a hobby not real work”.

  • Hard to find a pretty Malinois??? Hes around all of the great malinois amd ddr gsd breeders. Love my DDR amd waiting for my malinois. Best dogs bar none. But i get it, had a doberman in undergrad and he was a beast.

  • I had a female Doberman from European lines. A more loyal, affectionate, and athletic dog never lived. If you are looking for a working dog it will probably be easier and cheaper to find what you are looking for in a Malinois though.

  • Ernesto Mendoza says:

    This dude says to not go by what the parents look like and to go 2 or three generations back, then he completely forgets that and says who cares what the great grandparent was like, I wanna know what the parents were like?

  • I have a European Dobermann. I prefer European Dobermanns for exactly the same reasons. Very good and accurate video. The key takeaway here is if you get one, you absolutely need to be active with your European Dobermann. If you can’t be active, don’t get one; it won’t turn out well for you or your dog.

  • Only thing that is frustrating me is the euro dobie breeders don’t test their breeding dogs for health problems with them.
    Watched too many things and then they had a great job with the that die at 5. Really need to get weed through breeders and research.
    That’s good to do in Any dog though.
    The Europeans sometimes are too coarse but I think that’s the breeder.

  • The best thing is the breed is just super smart and easy to train hell I don't even remember training my rusty just took him with me every where no leash just keep him coupled with what ur doing and it's instinct they understand every word you say or hand signal

  • Dominic Spinelli says:

    Love the video and you are 100% my dog always biting everything and never stops ….has a lot of energy and eager to learn

  • Any benefit to going to Europe yourself and checking out kennels?
    Would the breeders be open to you visiting? What would you look for if you did such a visit?
    I also realize this would not be cheap.

  • I could never imagine getting a dog and giving it away because it wasn't good enough. This dude doesn't deserve to own dogs. Should've done more research before going through 2 dobermans.


  • I honestly love the look of the “American” Doberman more than what this guy is breeding sure his are still beautiful in some ways but the way they’re skin droops and bigger bone structure while having a sloped hind quarters is why I prefer the American version for they have a tighter sleek body and sound hip to shoulder height.

  • You are a heartless fool and an Idiot. 1. Dobermans are not part Greyhound! Where did you pick that up? 2. Once you adopt a dog it's yours. You suttered a bit there where you said so I have them to someone….ah who had a better use for them.

  • Full Circle Jiu Jitsu says:

    Looks like doberman fans don't whine about tail docking in the comment section! Everyone must be circumcised!!

  • This is really interesting because this becomes the argument of nature vs nurture. Believing that the dog will only work because of its pedigree is kinda prejudice, that's like saying a dog is only as good as ancestors. Our whole HISTORY of human beings for the past 50 years has tried to get us to think past that.

  • argus cryptoculus says:

    I am not happy at all after I learned what american breeders did to this unique race, I had one back in 1985 till 1996, female, 40kg of muscles and bones and 69cm hight of shoulder, a real "european dobermann" ! After destroing the name of the creator mr. Karl Friedrich Luis DOBERMANN, ( just goes to shows the total loss of respect for his great work) it's only a short way to the destruction of his work ! So dear friends and breeders of the original european dobermann, please give 'em back their name and make a difference to the pale US çopy.
    Please be aware of the fact that the individual name of a person cannot be translated without damageing his identity……

  • This may have been stated, but the American breed has been bread for show….I prefer the European breed. Like to find a good breeder in the Seattle area…

  • I have one of Brody's pups. Her name is Luna she'll be 3 at the end of May and I'll say this, I will never have such a loyal, intelligent and protective companion ever in my life. She is PERFECT! So much respect and obedience comes naturally from her she did not need much training. Brody is an amazing Dobie!

  • Best all-around breed. Athletic intelligent strong guard dog companion. When people rate dogs Doberman is in the top three of every category. May not be number one and everything but it is the only dog that’s at the top of every list

  • Tactical-Kydex-Gear says:

    We just had to put our 7 yearold Dobe to sleep. Due to wobbler disease. Came to a complete shock to us. Going from healthy to paraplegic overnight. He was a European doberman pinscher
    Large blocky head big bone and strong and the best dog i have ever owned. I would love to have another

  • joshua Leonard says:

    Hey Gerald , I am interested in the European Doberman Pinscher but when you explained that the Euro breed isn’t necessarily a pet as much as it is a working dog, would you say that if I wanted a Doberman that is by my side , is a great companion but also has that drive, should go for an American ?

  • Just here for The music says:

    Thank you very much for your video. I have 2 European Dobermann’s and 1 from Canada I see the difference. Love them all unconditionally,I have too say I enjoy the European ones more. They are more powerful,robust,muscular, bred for what the original maker wanted for them. The North American Doberman are beautiful but more docile and timid in my opinion having own the two different types. A person would have to own them both to fully understand this comment. And to grasp the concept of what is explained in the video and other videos. Thank you again. Beautiful Dobermann’s. 🐾🐾🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • European Doberman is not a family pet that lays down by your side while you work on the computer. It's an aggressive, doesn't sit still, strong personality, bonds with maybe one owner, more like bred to be a guard dog that you dump into a junk yard at night and leave. It won't lick and kiss your face. It will sit there and stare at you like "You're an idiot, I'm bored in here, I want to go outside and run" If you have an average home lot of 5K square feet you're gonna have a bad time. If you want your dog indoors. You're gonna have a bad time. If you have boomer grandparents or those that appear weak you're gonna have a bad time. Don't buy if you want love. Buy if you want a loaded gun in a dog.

  • $3,500 for a puppy? That's alot of money…why aren't Everyone breeding puppies in their backyard…it's as profitable as drugs.

  • Européan dobermanns are thé best and the only one real dobermanns! Heavy and impressive Guardian dogs! Nothing To see with the shitty American version. Skinny and brown. DOB= BIG BLACK-RED BEAST . GERMAN PERFECTION

  • Doberman Planet says:

    Beautiful dog! European Dobies are very impressive dogs. The American certainly has its place too but I have a European myself, he's amazingly capable of anything I throw at him.

  • RePlayBoy101 says:

    3:05 this guy is not a pure breed … hes a bit to "bushy" … something is offputting on him atleast european dobermans arent so bushy… dont know about american dobermans cuz i never saw them

  • People disliked this probably because they thought the person wasn’t a good owner or something like that LOL

  • Very nice looking Dobermans. However, they still look kind of clumsy and gangly to me when they're displaying athleticism. Maybe I'm just used to APBT

  • I realize now what it is that bothers me about the Doberman's physical structure, and it's ONLY one thing. The back leg paws or the hock are waaay too long like a rabbits – that's what makes them look a bit awkward when they run n jump. I think that needs to be corrected…just my opinion

  • Ya definitely the black n tan Doberman has some hock instability, known as sickle hock (too long). Check it out when he runs at 0:24

  • While you may need to be “active” you don’t need to be crazy amounts of active. I used to have a Belgian Malinois and he was well trained. It really depends how you raise these animals. My “little” boy Kylo loved to play and WORK. I worked him and I met his needs. He wasn’t aggressive with other dogs or destructive at home. He knew what time was work time vs chill out time at home. Kylo might’ve been an exception for the malinois but it really comes down to how you raise your animal. However, I DID devote various amounts of time to him as a pup laying down the rules as an alpha in the household. It’s hard to take dog advice after owning him because all I heard about his breed was “HIGH EXPERIENCE ONLY, HIGH DRIVE, HE WILL BE AGGRESSIVE IF YOU DONT EXERCISE ENOUGH.” It was very intimidating but I persevered and adopted my dear friend. I’m glad I did but at the end of the day don’t be like I was before I pulled the trigger. If you really love your pet and being a pack leader then the animal will be the vision of the perfect pet. -My two cents

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